[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

I know, but I am having fun.

 

Does this thread get locked up after the draft or does it keep going on for the next 10-15 years until these players careers are over?

 

Here's what I need help with. And I won't do this in a b****ing/moaning/whining way.

Reggie Bush is being heralded as perhaps the greatest prospect to ever come out of college football. I've heard McClain say that scouts are saying that. That's awesome...very, very exciting, to be sure!

I'm also hearing, neither the Texans nor the Saints are getting any action in terms of trade offers for their picks. How can this be? How can it be that this incredible prospect...so far and beyond above everyone else...can't garner trade offers? I'm really seriously confused by this. I assumed that this draft pick would carry serious value. Think about the Bush Bowl and all the hype. I'm just surprised there haven't been serious offers.

The above post is completely based on the assumption that the reports that the Saints and Texans aren't getting legit offers is correct.

 

1. This is one of the deepest drafts in a long time. Maybe other teams are content to stay where they are. I mean, the first 10-15 picks are going to make an immediate impact on the teams that draft them, so why should they sacrifice additional picks to move up?

2. I'm willing to bet there have been offers that none of us know about. Even the so called insiders.

 

where's teh clamoring for VY, if he's supposedly the 2nd coming of John Elway as some have insinuated?

 

There's a very good chance he will be the first QB taken and the third pick overall.

If Reggie Bush is the best prospect in years (as many many many have proclaimed), you'd think we'd hear more in trade talks. We're not hearing it. I somehow doubt that people have all the sudden become tight-lipped about things like this either. Deep draft or no, if he's the next coming of Gayle Sayers, you'd think people would be clamoring to move up.

 

That's really not a fair assessment. When the asking price is 3 first round picks and you're only willing to trade withing a limited range (teams that have a good chance of sucking next year too) then there's not going to be a lot of offers.

 

but "the experts" aren't calling VY the greatest prospect ever. i'm hearing that language about bush. apparently it's being said by the scouts. that's why i'm confused.

i didn't set this up to be a VY thing. that's done. it's history. i'm just surprised that "the greatest prospect ever" hasn't generated real trade offers. and if they have, i'm surprised we haven't gotten wind of it.

 

Unless GMs realize that no matter how good a running back is, they simply aren't worth this type of money (as evidenced by how often teams let their star running backs go) and that they don't carry franchises to titles nearly as well as a QB or a top-tier defense.

 

and maybe that's it.

 

It's just the way the draft has fallen this year. Most teams only trade up for QB's, only rarely are teams willing to trade up for RB's like the Saints did with Ricky Williams. That being said, if the Saints, Titans, Jets, or Packers all had the #1 pick in the draft they would all likely select Bush. Only the Titans may go with QB.

 

i hear ya...so why isn't this "one of those rarely" situations? if bush is what we hear he is, he's the rarest of the rare. the very fact that a team is spending a #1 pick on a RB is fairly rare.

 

We're asking for too much. The truth is that I never think we intended to trade out of the pick. They better make some progress today or we are going to get owned by Bush and his camp in contract negotiations after tommorrow. We aren't dealing with a hold out.

 

you're making my point. you're arguing that hardly anyone (which we're not even really sure of) is trying to trade up to get Bush, that if's he "Gayle Sayers" people would want to move up.

i'm saying the same thing can be said about VY. He has a "good" chance of being 1st QB taken and third overall. why aren't teams trying to trade with NO for number 2 to ensure they get VY who is "John Elway"?

i'm a supporter of both players but i'd rather the TExans pick Bush. but all of the VY lovers act as if VY's the only worthy pick.

 

The reason I've heard that the Texans aren't getting any offers is because they want a lot in return. What they want is more than any one is willing to give up. It's got nothing to do with the player. I assume the same is true for NO. To get the Texans pick, you have to be in the top 5, give up more of your draft picks and a starting player (probably an O-lineman).

 

I think Max's point is that if Bush really is the greatest prospect ever, isn't he worth far more than a normal #1 pick is?

That's why his question is solely focused on Bush and not VY or anyone else.

 

Because people are saying Reggie Bush IS Gale Sayers, while most people accept that Vince COULD BE John Elway. Vince isn't the one that people are annointing the one of the best prospects ever. His question had nothing to do with Vince or any other player that could have gone #1 this year.

 

as someone else noted above. it maybe just b/c the Texans asking price is too high.

 

THIS ISN'T ABOUT VY!!! Pretend VY doesn't even exist.

Reggie Bush is being heralded as perhaps the greatest football prospect EVER. I've actually heard that said. And not just by the Mel Kipers of the world.

Soooo...one would assume that teams would WANT the greatest propsect ever. That the chance to draft him would be worth a ton. That you'd gladly give up a few picks with risk to take the guy who the greatest minds say is the greatest ever. He's as "can't miss" as they come....right??? You would literally be minimizing risk by taking the guy...plus he'll be super-marketable.

So why isn't it happening???

p.s. now assume VY exists again. we've been hearing rumors that the Raiders are interested in trading up to get VY.

 

have you read this thread?