[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

I agree that Denver has not needed the highest rated running back to make their system successful, but Kubiak's mouth has to be watering on the possibilities in having Reggie Bush. Denver has done a great job in drafting late round picks, because they are a perennial playoff team.

Expect Kubiak to push for Bush. We have picked up some decent players in free agency, which gives us more options in the draft. Having 4 picks in 66 is going to be huge as well, barring a Casstastrophe.

 

I agree with the poster who said we should end this thread or change the title. We all know Bush is going to be our pick so now it just becomes a bashing forum. I wouldl ike to see a draft info section so we can moniter were these guys are going and how they do in private workouts.

It's over now. Let's be excited that we are getting an amazing player in Buis h and wish VY the best whereever he gets drafted.

 

Ya'll are wanting to end this thread but it's ya'll that are keeping this thread going with pointless posts. Why do you keep coming back in this thread if you truly believe the debate is over?

It sure seems like that Bush will be the pick but there is still stuff that can be discussed.

 

No there isn't. After almost 3000 posts in this one thread, it has all been gone over multiple times. All there is left to do is wait for the draft. Personally, I cannot wait until the damn thing is over with so that it doesn't have to be discussed anymore.

 

Okay then, so I'll ask you the same question, why do you keep coming into this tread if there is nothing to discuss?

 

I was talking about this particular thread or at least changing the title. I said that i still want to discuss VY, Bush, Cutler and a bunch of other guys but this was a Bush vs. Young thread and since the debate is over now (in terms of who we'll pick) I figured it best to change it up.

However, if someone doesn't do that then this is the thread i have to go to to get updated info that i'm looking for. That was my point.

 

1st:On Bush's workout. From the Texans perspective I got what I was looking for. No question, athletically, Bush is quite special and is among the elite draftees at RBs from the last decade or so (not going to say ahead of Sanders or Dickerson or Jackson, but you can argue you can make an argument he is the best RB prospect in terms of upside in recent memory). No question you can select Bush and with a strait face say I think he could be a hall of famer, a great player. He has the gifts. I still have lots of questions about him as the workhorse or every down feature of an offense, but the upside is certainly there. Conceivably he could be in the do it all multithreat mold of Faulk, but perhaps even more of a home run hitter. Now I don't think he will be better than Faulk (who according to his first NFL coach is the football smartest and hardest working player he has been around), I am just saying the athletic potential is there.

I think the question of the thread is who SHOULD the Texans draft. Not who WILL the Texans draft. The should will take years to determine, and hinges on how Bush, Carr and VY's careers go. I still take VY as a potential frachise QB to build my team around because I simply think he will be better than Carr or any other QB in the draft pool and R. Bush is a running back, but I certainly understand the position of going with Bush and Carr and it is plainly obvious this is what the Texans are going to do. We will see whether it was the right move, the draft day isn't going to tell us this, history will.

I don't think it was. Very average arm. Not in the class of Cutler, or even VY. ML also sailed a few balls. The fact ML was not great throwing (by most accounts) and VY was in a structured workout pretty much blows the the whole idea (thrown around here trying to discredit VY's workout) it was a no-brainer for VY to excell in that format and anyone could do it. Below includes quotes from ML.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2394532
As for Leinart? He displayed some athleticism by turning in a 37-inch vertical jump. He completed 36 of 45 passes by unofficial count, with three drops by his receivers. His accuracy was good, not great, and his arm strength was adequate. It appeared, at times, that he aimed the ball a bit too much and some balls sailed on him. Leinart conceded afterwards that he probably pressed a little.

"In situations like these," Leinart said, "I think you tend to overdo it. You know, you try to throw a ball too hard, and it goes high, or you try to be too fine with your passes. I think I started off too tight."


Doesn't sound like a no brainer easy situation to perform now does it.

I think VY and ML are neck and neck to a lot of teams, and different teams have their choices. It would be an easy choice for me, VY has the stronger arm, much better athlete, equally poised, equally unflappable leader--I'd take this package over ML's experience and knowledge of a pro style offense, but it will depend on what the drafting team thinks. I really doubt either player last by 4, or that VY last past 7. My gut is Tenn takes VY at #3 unless someone (Oak, NYJ) skips them via NO, but who knows for sure. The draft is entirely unpredictable except Hou takes Bush #1 because NO has so many options and doesn't need a QB now.

This is pretty much all I have to say about the matter. Good luck to the Texans and VY whether he goes, please no Tenn : ( .

 

Leinart's workout was decribed as pretty good on ESPN. Definitely not mind blowing and not bad either. I don't think it's that big of a suprise either. I've never thought Leinart had a cannon for an arm. I think he was proably over compensating a lot and probably caused him to sail those passes. I think his workout just made the question of what QB goes first cloudier.

 

You got that right!

 

I'm over here in Nashville, and all signs from 104.5 "the zone" (equivalent to star610 with silly transition commercial spots into the sports talk) point to VY, especially by the showing from ML...Actually it seems a two way race since Cutler is to Nashville what Young is to Houston...

BTW, everyone is absolutely raving about Bush. Even in Nashville...

 

Think so? Being in Nashville, it doesn't seem like that to me at all. Cutler isn't the hometown guy. . he's from Indiana. and all that.

 

What is considered Leinarts main selling point other than that he won a lot of games?

He has the weakest arm of the three, and least mobility it seems..

but I guess he has ran the closest to a pro style offense. is that his main selling point?

 

But he is a Vandy guy, and that is a big thing...

 

roxran.. true, but from what I've seen as a student.. nashville people dont exactly support vandy all that much..

so there would never be outrage over not drafting him. like with the texas situation

 

people make a big deal out of these times...

is a tenth of a second really going to make that much of a difference in the success of a player?

 

True, but Vandy has never given Nashville anything to cheer about. I'd bet alot of people wouldn't even know that Vandy is in Nashville.

 

John Clayton said this morning that he believes that VY will be taken before Leinart.

But I'm done with this thread.

 

I agree that VY will be taken before Lion heart, but I must add that I too am done with this thread.

 

would be a lot bigger if he were a Volunteer.

 

your resignation is NOT ACCEPTED.