[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

I actually said that and made exact player comparisons pages ago in this thread. We really are.

 

anybody know anything from the USC pro day?

i hope VY doesnt get drafted by the titan. cuz then we would have to play him 2 times a year especially if he turns out to be the best player of this draft

 

Then you hear or read random things like this sidebar item from Sporting News:

Sports Talk with Dylan McDermott (an excerpt)
TSN: Do you have a favorite athlete you like to watch?
McDermott: I guess my favorite all-time athlete is Muhammad Ali. My favorite current athlete... wow. Probably Vince Young.

 

I think Samfisher has it dead on....the media, the experts, the draftniks...their portrayal of Vince is different than the average Rose Bowl viewer who is still saying "Wow."

Still, I have been lurking around the Jets, Saints, and Titans boards and most of the talk is Leinhart, Leinhart, Leinhart.

 

It's tomorrow.

 

Time?

 

I do hope Vince gets drafted by Tennessee, if we pass on him. Good team and organization. Real good coach. Air NcNair, long time friend and mentor to help him. Good offensive coach in Chow. AANNNDD, we get to play him twice a year. Each of those games will be huge fun.

If not the Titans, then the Jets for Vince. Vince would be the biggest thing to hit New York sports, ever. The press and fan interest in new York sports is huge and much bigger than in the past, especially the way past. I would have a lot of fun watching Vince with the Jets.

The answer to the original question, 145 pages ago, is take Vince. My prediction for Reggie Bush is that he will mature into Ki-Jana Carter. I can see the next six months so clear. A training camp nagging hamstring strain. Exibition season pulled muscle after playing hurt. Season starts with Vince on the cover of Sports Illustrated as the new Michael Jordon of the NFL, and Reggie Bush on IR.

 

The Titans would be a great situation for VY IMO. A year or two under McNair will help a lot, a career under Chow could do absolute wonders. The guy is an absolute genius and while he would probably prefer a pro-style QB like Leinart, Chow could do some amazing things for VY, which is kinda scary for Texan fans.

The Jets are the wild card in this draft IMO. They restructured Pennington's deal and signed Ramsey so you would think they are out of the running for a QB. They could use Mario or D'Brick, but hoping for a injury-free season from Pennington is a quite a risk IMO, especially if they get a shot at VY and/or Leinart.

 

I'm not a huge Reggie Bush fan, but I do follow Penn State, and Ki-Jana never ran like Reggie.

 

I have this feeling that VY will be a Raider.

 

Did Jordan spend his first season on the bench with no pt?

 

I disagree - Vince needs a less established OC to be successful. A coordinator like Chow is considered brilliant because of his system and his ability to call plays within that system. Vince needs an OC that's willing to build a system around him, rather than fit him into a system designed around a Matt Leinart-type QB. Chow is certainly creative, but ihis offense is centered around his system. Atlanta seems to be finally learning this lesson with Vick - there are rumors they are moving away from the West Coast next season and looking more at a spread offense used in a lot of college systems with mobile QBs (Texas, for example).

 

1. If the Jets had the number 1 choice, and could choose between either VY, Bush or any other player in the draft, who would they choose?

2. If the Jets were going to make a trade for the rights to draft the player of their choice, what would they be willing to give up?

Anybody know?

 

I just had this sudden urge to go to the restroom and take a crap.

Not just any crap - - - A Jrazz.

 

Seriously, guys....if the Jets had the #1 pick in the draft...you really think they would pick Vince? It blows my mind how myopic people can be about this.

Vince is great.
He may be a great player.
But no way in hell he will be drafted before Bush or Leinhart.

 

ESPN's John Clayton reported on Friday that the Titans currently ranked Vince ahead of Leinart, and said that many other teams did as well. Profootballtalk.com - the site so many of you frequently source - has Vince at 2 and Leinart at 3 in its latest mock draft.

There's almost no way Vince goes ahead of Bush, but there's a very, very real chance - perhaps even a probability - that Vince goes ahead of Leinart. There might not have been a month ago, but things have slowly picked back up.

 

I would say that Bush's 4.33 in the 40, his 40.5 vertical, etc has pretty much ended the debate in this circus of joy.

 

It was over before it started. If Bush had run a 4.5 it still wouldn't have mattered. He's the #1 pick.

 

If he ran a 4.5 he would not be #1. That would pose serious questions whether his speed would translate to the NFL.

 

TRADE TO GET MORE PICKS...BUT THEY WONT DO THAT SO BUSH