[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Teams aren't allowed to talk about underclassman that are deciding to come out. That's why Casserly was not able to discuss Bush w/ 610 a couple weeks back.

Nice try though.

 

Are the Horn fans so Pro-Vince/Anti-Bush that they want the Texans penalized for talking to Bush?

 

Yes, you can't talk ABOUT them. That doesn't mean you can't talk TO them.

 

Where are the Texans talking about underclassmen? They talked to Bush himself and Carrol.

Nice try # dos.

 

Actually, it just sounds like you're the one that's bitter, along w/ the other UT-haters trying to get anything they can get against us. If you like Bush, that's fine, but it just sounds like you want Bush because you don't like UT. But I guess none of this really matters.

 

Yes. Remember they are going to be fans of whatever team Vince goes to because they won't ever forgive the Texans for passing him up.

 

Rocket River graduated from Texas A&M.

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=107336&z=1

It says in this thread that McNair assured Bush that IF he came out, he would be the #1 pick, therefore, the Texans were discussing Bush before he declared.

Agent- Is that true? I don't have enough time right now to check out the official rules, but I don't think you'd be allowed to talk TO an underclassman if you can't even talk ABOUT them. But I could be wrong.

 

Guys this ESPN!!!! After all the switching from Bush to Young back to Bush rumors that they've reported how can anyone living here believe them. Just Listen to what McClain has 2 say. I have more faith in his inside scoops then NY/LA based ESPN.


On A side note: Owners Can't give assurances to underclassmen. I remeber Mack brown once saying that before a JR thinks about declaring he talks with his NFL connections (ie scouts) to gauge a players worth. But owners giving promises are if not a blatant affront to NFL policy than they're very borderline. I don't think McNair is stupid enough 2 put himself anywhere near such a position.

 

lost in all of the madness is this quote. lets face it: we're all just a bunch of idiots with an internet connection and an opinion. none of us know how to scheme and develop a nfl offense. if our new coach thinks we can flourish with bush then we have to roll with it. im excited to see what kubiak can do with carr-bush-johnson.

this is coming from a UT student a HUGE VY fan.

 

if you can't talk about underclassmen, don't you think you can't talk them. they would have to do it through a third part.

 

YaoMing, you are an idiot who I guess is very jaded after having UT mop up on whomever your local favs are.

I think Texan fans are in a riot not because VY is from UT, but because he is the best college QB and player just about anyone has ever seen. I think anyone would doen't have a grudge against UT pretty much realize VY is the most special prospect to come along in a long time.

If you watch playoffs you now QBs who are composed and talented are rare in the NFL and the difference makers. The idea you would pass on one because of an great open field player is available who happens to have the Heisman trophy is just utterly stupid.

It is obvious to all after the whole college football season who was the best college football player. By a mile obvious. The fact he plays the most important position (QB) and now available to you (declared when you didn't think he was) should lead you to evaluate all options.

I am sure no such promise was made to Bush/Carroll. The Texans will explore all options, including VY. Senseless to make any decisions before bringing the prospects (VY, Bush) in for evaluation and considering trade opps.

I am a Cowboys fan, always have been, but sense there is no way VY goes to them I hope the Texans keep him, because VY is the most special blend of talent and leadership most college football watchers have ever seen. IMO Texans franchise would basically ditch another 4 years or so selecting Bush, who will be good if he stays healthy but not dominant nor a guy to build a team around. I'd like to see the Texans do well, that is all. Would not even mind VY and Texans' beating the Boys in the 2009 superbowl.

 

LOL at the guy who suggested reggie mcneal would be a good pro.

-isnt he like 6 feet tall?
-dismal winning %
-weak ankles

i cant believe aggy still thinks reggie mcneal is a good player. he put up solid stats but far from being a good player. i think he'll be like a jamaal lord and get drafted to play safety or something

 

First, "discussing" underclassmen pretty much means you can't talk about them with the media. It seems that your logic that NFL teams wouldn't even be allowed to hypothesize about underclassmen within the organization.

Second. I actually have no idea. I'm just saying that talking to somebody is not the same thing as talking about them. For instance, I'm talking (typing) to you right now but I'm not talking to anyone about you (except for all the people who read the post).

 

Good point. Mortensen was also the guy who information from "sources close to the organization" that we were going to draft Bush no matter if VY came out, this was completely shot down by the Texans. I don't see how a source close to the Broncos would get this kind of information when Kubiak is probably pretty focused on winning the Super Bowl. Sounds like a rehash of information.

Like Scar put it, I don't think McNair or any owner would make such bold promises w/o even fully evaluating the entire draft.

Good post Bass.

 

WTF? Although I'm intrigued by VY, I'm in the "trade down for more picks" camp right now. But hey, don't let me get in the way of a blanket UT fan bashing.

You just got pwned there, buddy.

 

Maybe I should have rephrased myself. Of course the Texans could discuss Bush all they want within the organization, but since you are not allowed to discuss underclassman w/ the media, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be allowed to call them on the phone and talk to them.

But this could all be solved if someone knew the official rules. Gater? Nike?

 

Lot of sources claiming that texans will take Bush. With so many claims, its gotta be true.

ESPN Link

 

I agree completely. The truth is nobody here really knows a damned thing and anybody who really thinks that their opinion matters more than McNair's, Casserley's, or Kubiak's (probably) is fooling themselves.

Truth be told, I really don't have much of a preference one way or th other between Bush and Young. I do however realize that the public outcry for VY wouldn't be there if he was from or played college ball in another state. I think that the VY love affair on this board is out of control and that makes it impossible for any legitimate Bush v. Young debate to go on. The homers, be the Horns or not, will come up with BS to support their case while the rebel Bush crowd will come up with BS to support theirs. Anybody who is, or at least tries to be, unbiased will be caught in the middle and ultimately the voices of reason will be drowned out by the cries from the blind supporters of both sides.

With that said, I say trade the pick and take D'Brick.

 

Actually, the Texans plan to take Reggie Bush so they can utterly destroy his pro career, thereby validating VY's status as the superior player. I know this to be true because I'm a graduate of YaoMing's School of Bizzaro Logic and Backpeddling When Called Out.