[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Well, what's fair is fair. In exchange for breaking the truth about Vince Young's score of 6 on the Wonderlic, I apologize for asking if you got your information from espn dot com.

 

Wow. A breakthrough.



Is the Middle East next?

 

apparently he was just ill-prepared by his agent. young has hired some family friends, one guy is a lawyer and has done some agent work, but not in the NFL. they are clearly out of their league.

 

Thanks VesceySux, I appreciate the info. It doesn't make a difference to me what his score was but I was curious.

 

The fact is a lot of things could have happened, it may have been a timing issue, it may not have been. Maybe he accidently skipped a question on the bubble sheet (assuming it is multiple choice) and all his intended answers were for the question before. Then when they corrected (do we know for sure there was a second test or did they just regrade it) the mistake he got a 16? Who knows, all we know now is the first time his test was graded he got a 6, but obviously there was something wrong with it, maybe a stray mark on the test? The fact is we don't know, and I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt instead of jumping on the bandwagon saying he's an idiot.

An IQ test which is what the Wonderlic basically is, determines how well a person learns new concepts, patterns, etc. But really as a football player there's only one thing to teach him and that's your offense. A low score doesn't mean he can't read defenses, that takes study (film room) and experience. A low score just means it may take him a little longer to learn the offense, and as complex as an NFL offense gets it's still not rocket science. Plans and schemes only get you so far, if you can't execute the play (lack of talent, speed, etc) its pointless (and we all know he's a pretty clutch player). Assuming it takes VY an hour more to completely understand a play and where everyone is going to be, i'm fine with that. He's a very competitive player and he'll take as much time as it takes to get the job done.

 

the second test is a new test right.. not the same questions again?

 

Thanks Vescey.

 

Not really. I don't think anyone's denying that he got a 6. The question is did he get a 6 with the test graded correctly and/or administered fairly. I don't know what anyone has to apologize for, considering not many people were denying he scored a 6.

 

Yeah, I realized that after I got off the phone. I'll make another inquiry tomorrow and see if my source will ask around for me.

 

Kind of interesting, four of the lower Wonderlic scorers of QBs--McNabb, Marino, McNair and Culpepper--were some of the QBs who were some of the quickest impact NFL players.

Not that I think there is a real trend there, just shows how worthless of a test it is regarding "football intelligence". The kinds of intelligence related to football I don't think we have any kind of test for. For instance how fast you think and spatial abilities are probably much, much, more important than how well you think in a general way or your general verbal ability that IQ tests give more weight to.

I think it is rather embarrassing that as weak of a test as the Wonderlic is used. Not only a weak measure of general intelligence (note the wide score fluctuations with a little coaching--that should never happen with a decent test), but general intelligence itself is of such limited use for football.

Note I and others have pointed this out well before the current controversy about one Vincent Young.

 

Seriously how the **** can you not prepare for the wonderlic? I can go to espn page 2 and take a sample test. At the same time it's not a huge concern because he's now outscored or equaled: McNabb, McNair, Grbac, Cunningham, Marino, Bradshaw, Jim Kelly, etc.

 

He didn't score a 6. He scored a nine but the grader was so stupid he read it upside down.

 

9, much better.

 

Wonderlic doesn't mean ****!

VY06

 

As for the game of football, you are most definetly correct.

 

my thoughts is that vince was just simply blindsided by the test. as an underclassman he was unprepared the first time and that reflects on his agent/advisors. he took the test again and scored better. i think we can agree vince young isnt illiterate

to say that vince is too stupid to run an offense is just blinded by their hate for ut. i believe mack in that the zone read is a complicated offense to run. you would think that there would be more muffed handoffs with every running play but i dont recall any throughout the year. he makes good decisions in the pocket and he runs the no huddle seamlessly and does it under high pressure situations.

he isnt as book smart as these 'scholars' on this message board, but most athletes at major public schools wouldnt be enrolled if it werent for their atheltic abilities. any school that says they would deny VY a scholarship to play football for their schol is just lying to themselves. the dude is gonna make more money than any of you will see in your lifetime - not bad for an illiterate r****d

 

He's not really an underclassman. Remember he redshirted a year, so he's been in college the same amount as other seniors who did not redshirt.

 

If Vince was unprepared, he has no one else to blaim but himself.

 

nice...

 

Vince had a whole lot more important things to prepare for than the Wonderlic--like practicing throws on 3-5-7 step drops, strength training, speed/quickness drills, learning pro style offenses (studyying film), and basically everything else actually related to playing the game of football.

I wouldn't expect Reggie Bush to spend much time on preparing for the Wonderlic either and think his score (whatever it is) is completely unimportant as well.