[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

From the guys who broke the 6 story that ended up being incorrect, you mean?

Profootballtalk is an absolute joke. Always has been. Before this weekend, there were serious rumors flying of Carr for Ricky and a third, paving the way for the Texans to draft Vince. A couple of months before, there was virtually no way the Texans would pick up Carr's option if they finished among the worst records in the league. Now, they "confirm" Vince scores a 6... and yet again, it unravels.

TJ, we could make up a rumor ourselves and it'd have as much credibility as PFT. Those guys are jokes... and it's been proven over and over and over again. The "Hoopsworld" of the NFL, so to speak.

 

If only your rigorous standards of expression, intellect and preparation extended to your own posts, or the political hacks you shill for.

 

So did Vince take the test twice, first time a 6 and second time 16?

Or

Did someone screw up the grade and it was 16 and not a 6?

or

Did someone screw up the grade so Vince took it again and scored a 16?

or

Did someone overhear someone say 16 and thought they said 6?

Or are we still not sure because I've read and heard all of those.

 

next week it will be something else. you guys are too cute

 

This is what they were saying on the radio in Austin this morning.

 

The joy some of you are taking at someone possibly scoring a 6 is sickening. I hope you're proud of yourselves. All this because he wore a burnt orange jersey for three years.

****ing sad.

 

wow, i don't know how well he does at tests. i have no idea what is true of all of this. but i know he can win football games.

 

It's not sickening, it's par for the course for the Duke & Duke of college football

 

thanks sam, I didn't want to say it.

 

If that 6 is legit then the 16 he got the second time is legit as well, meaning he didn't take the first test seriously, the second time he showed that he had average intelligence. Average intelligence is more than enough to play QB in the NFL, I don't understand why some people think you have to be a genius to play QB, that's a myth. Fact of the matter is the real genius on most football teams is the guy who puts together the offensive game plan, that takes real strategizing, that takes real intelligence. All the quarterback really does is run the plays given to him, so all he has to remember is that specific play, that's why a guy like Dan Marino can dominate even though he's not the brightest guy in the world.

TJ is wrong in saying that he's not as or wasn’t as stupid as a 14 because he has a job on TV, all it means is that he's comfortable in public speaking his mind, but the guy never says anything profound. Why do you think he always comes off everywhere as a dumb jock? Would he give Donovan McNabb the benefit of a doubt? He carries himself well too, graduated from Syracuse, and he is well spoken, Terry Bradshaw is going to be the leader of the Fox NFL show next week, is he a genius?

Now I know brain types is pretty much a pseudo science, but that is a very good example of brain types, all those guys are of a brain type that is not really interested in education, basically, they're more into doing things that excite them. Dan Marino and Donovan McNabb are the extraverts of the group, when they're on TV they'll always sound comfortable giving interviews, that’s why Dan Marino makes for a great studio personality and Donovan McNabb is a great interview. Daunte Culpepper and Steve McNair are the introverts of the group, when they give interviews they may sometimes come off as dumb when all they really are is uncomfortable in those situations, they probably think of things they should have said during the interview AFTER the interview is over. That doesn't mean that they can't become very intelligent and scholarly people or that they can't become great interviewers, just means that they're naturally wired against that type of behavior. Obviously, all those guys were smart enough to play the QB position regardless of their real world intelligence, which is why I think it doesn’t take a genius to play QB.

Consider that the most common brain types amongst QBs is ENTP, I believe that is because they usually take education seriously, and because of that coaches take them seriously, but the fact of the matter is that there’s nothing special about these quarterbacks. I mean, Matt Hasselback, Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia, Jake Delhomme, Marc Bulger, Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, Charlie Batch, Tommy Maddox, Rodney Peete, Ben Roethlisberger, Kurt Warner, Aaron Rogers, Alex Smith and countless others. Yeah, they’re smart and they have their moments, but they're boring, they don’t ever do anything truly special like guys like; Brett Favre, Warren Moon, Peyton Manning, Phil Simms, John Elway, Michael Vick, Terry Bradshaw, Donovan McNabb, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Steve McNair and any other great QB that you can name and isn’t mentioned probably wasn’t an ENTP, those guys bring excitement to the game. None of those QBs outside of Peyton Manning will be confused with football geniuses either, in fact guys like Michael Vick, Terry Bradshaw, and Dan Marino are sometimes considered flat out dumb, but they made for great quarterbacks because they had the perfect instincts and were smart enough to be successful QBs.

So the 16 Vince Young got does not mean that he will not be a great quarterback in the NFL, as mentioned plenty of other quarterbacks have bombed this IQ test, it probably means that he won't be a great help to his offensive coordinator, but he's fine as a quarterback as long as his QB skills are truly as good as they looked at Texas. And I didn't take the time in writing this long ass post because I'm in the draft Vince Young camp, personally I think David Carr is a fine quarterback that can be great one day, and I think Reggie Bush will be a bad ass game changer at RB. Just adding my opinion on this Wonderlick test controversy to the others already here, whether Vince Young becomes a great quarterback, an average quarterback or a complete bust is all dependant on his abilities on the field, not on his ability to ace an IQ test.

 

Maybe if you took a little time to look your math, 6 out of 20 is actually EXACTLY 15 out of 50, which took me all of 5 seconds to figure out in my head. Assuming that its multiple choice (which I don't know if it is or not) with 5 choices on each question, random guessing should get one an average score of 10. Does that mean Jeff George (10) just randomly guessed, not likely. Just because someone scores low on the Wonderlic doesn't make them dumb. You're such a blatant hater that you have to keep trying to beat that into everyone. Do you consider Marino "dumb"? Would you consider Marino, Cunningham twice as stupid as Akili Smith? The fact that you have to put someone down like that is disappointing. BTW which insiders are "adamant" that he scored a 6??

 

if only you and texxx held this administration to such high standards.

at least you save your criticism for what really matters....

 

OWNAGE. trader_jorge has actually defended bush's poor speaking skills. I guess its alright not to be a good public speaker as long as you don't use slang.

 

Dude you are possibly the biggest tool on this board. Can you talk football or due you have to continue to take little cheap shots at me? Since you want to play that game Sam, I'm not reading the Chicago paper by myself, your wife is reading it to me.

 

Also, since everyone is so concerned with the possibility of Vince's original score being incorrect, I love how nobody had brought up the fact that McNabb and Marino both scored 16's on their tests. They had it on ESPN last night. Funny how I haven't heard that. Oh, it's because everyone wants to use the excuse McNabb and Marino scored less then VY. Guess what, they didn't.

 

dude the point theyre trying to make is that the test is irrelevant and not necessarily a good barometer as to who will succeed in the nfl. it doesnt really matter what they scored, just the fact they scored 'lower than average' and are/were successful qbs.

 

Straight to the "Well I had sex with your wife" ehh? You skipped "jerk store" and the intermediate steps - anyway have fun in Camp with Trader_Jorge, bigtexxx, and reggietodd, you can take refuge from my brutal assaults.

Lighten up, chica. It's the internets. But if you want to talk football instead of Wonderlickin' good conspiracy theories to which you subscribe, I'm all ears.

Oh...and by the way, my wife doesn't live in Chicago, she lives in JOLIET! Take that sucka!

 

I thought McNabb scored a 12?

Bottom line is VY is making some bad decisions before the draft which is going to cost him some money. He should fire his agent, Adams, and bring in someone who knows what they are doing. If Adams would have made him take some sample test beforehand VY would have scored his 16, and this would not be an issue.

 

He scored a 12, then a 16:

http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm

Marino scored a 15, according to the above. But hey, Joey Harrington was up in the 30's....and our own franchise QB David Carr was practically off the charts with a 24.

 

I am getting to the point that I wish they would get rid of the combine. Too many guys jump way up based on how many times they bench 225 or how fast they run 40s and too many good football players drop because of stupid things like some test. Remember Suggs slow forty time - we all know how well that worked out. Everyone knows VY can play. I am still not sure that he is what the Texans need, but the boy can play.