i didn't say it doesn't. but you're claiming tracy in those 8 minutes cost the team. from what i saw, tracy wasn't a liability on the court to cost the team in those 8 minutes. he played defense, he made good passes... how can he cost the team doing those things? maybe denver is just a pretty darn good team don't you think? they're bound to make some damn runs. just like they made one after we tied the game in the 3rd quarter when tracy DID NOT PLAY. now if he plays like brian cook, then yes, he can cost the team in those 8 minutes. get it?
He also has good court vision. There was a number of times he basically spoonfed Landry, Landry just got his shot blocked at the rim.
For good measure: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6774454.html "Wednesday’s Tracy McGrady cameo did not go nearly as well as that of the previous night, when he made his season debut. He missed his only shot, and on the other end, where he asked to be matched against Anthony, he seemed unable to muster anywhere near the lateral quickness to interfere with Anthony off the dribble. Anthony was 1-for-6 and the Rockets led by six points when McGrady replaced Shane Battier. When Battier returned, Anthony was putting in two free throws to give him 11 points in McGrady’s 7:35 on the floor."
DD get your glasses on. i was referring to that play to (2 FREE THROWS) that wasn't an and-1. you're mistaking that for the and-1 on chuck hayes. so again, just a fact check, but carry on.
LOL - dude, that wasn't an and-1 - he missed the shot and had two ft's.... Either you don't know what an and-1 is or you are 100% blinded by your manhate
Right so he missed......certainly I will concede it was not the AND one, I thought. Will you guys now concede that Tmac played awful D there? And that it was NOT on Chuck Hayes? DD
Typical of Dave and DD to hate on a guy who has played 16 minutes in 10 months. Tracy guarded a guy who will be a serious contender for the MVP this season. Put it into perspective you muppets.
it's why you don't read recaps. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yiDA9HVy7Ss&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yiDA9HVy7Ss&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> tmac was on melo a total of 4 times. melo got 2 fts the first time, blowing by tmac. other 2, bricks. last on a loose ball and a switch, he got by landry. melo did other damage v. hayes (and-1), a foul on ariza, and 2 fast break layups. tracy did fine on melo defensively, if people want to claim tracy was a defensive liability. but yes, shane did the best job on melo that night easily.
And enough with all this anecdotal crap from last game. No one would look good in McGrady's position right now. It's going to take him a little while to get in a rhythm. How about we not judge where his career is at based on the first 15 minutes of PT he's had in 10 months? I wouldn't be surprised if McGrady did take very little money to come back to this team, though, especially with Morey at the helm. He got Francis to do it, and I bet he can pull off the same thing with Mac given that McGrady probably believes in the potential of this team as much as ever with a (hopefully) healthy Yao returning, and who knows what else Morey might make happen by next off-season. ... Plus, Morey might be motivated to do it for the fans alone. We'll see, though. If McGrady really never gets into form this season, then he's probably gone. I don't think that will happen, though.
Of course....no doubt about it....... I am not saying he is all he can be.....not by any stretch.....I am saying the team should not be playing him much until he IS all he can be.....because it could hurt them in trying to win games. DD
DD, you're making yourself look bad here. i was referring to that same play: tmac got beat the first time he was on melo. that was awful D. that wasn't the only time he was on melo, and melo was 0-2 afterwards. shouldn't you credit a guy just coming back from microfracture forcing melo to shoot 0-2? i'm sure you saw the airball layup in the next clip. and there was an and-1 on chuck hayes. RE-WATCH it on league pass. i'm sure you have it.
Melo missed 2 layups......on Tmac...I am more concerned with his inability to stay in front of him. DD
Here's what I said: I guess my sentence structure should have been "throw him out there like he did last night and potentially cost us the game" but I cleared things up in my following post. I think you're on one of your "McGrady can do no wrong" kicks today. If you're going to argue that playing McGrady didn't "potentially cost the Rockets the game" then I don't know what to day. 8 minutes is a long time and 8 minutes of poor play by one player absolutely can cost a team a game. I never said the loss was on Tracy but him playing absolutely could have affected the outcome. Last night, that would not have been in a positive way.
Look, moron, I have praised the guy's fitness level and play since his return. My point is that he hurt the team last night. learn to read.
now i'm sure you didn't watch the game. lemme recap tmac v. melo first time - melo got by him for 2 free throws 2nd time - melo faced up on tmac, tried to drive, tmac STAYED with him and missed a layup badly (no help either) 3rd time - melo tried to step back for a jumper, missed 4th time - melo mishandled the ball after a pick as it got loose towards the sidelines, melo picks it up and saw he got switched onto landry and drove in for a foul that's the summary of tmac v. melo is you like to know.
How else is he going to get in game shape? He had to get on the court eventually. The guy has done everything asked of him since he had his reported meeting with Adelman and you and Dave still want to b**** and moan that Melo scored on him.
You are an...wait for it...IDIOT! Ariza hurt the team, Landry hurt the team. It isn't hard to find a few low lights of a players game and b**** about how they hurt the team. Landry got locked under the rim, missed a mid ranged jump shoot. Someone left Martin wide open for a three when Tracy was on the floor, when Martin has been knocking them down this season. You are b****ing about Tracy because it is Tracy.
You can blame other players but at the end of the day the Rockets had a lead and had 'Melo under control when McGrady came in. When he came out they were losing and 'Melo exploded.
So no responsibility on Landry for missing two shots? Since it was Tracys fault we lost the lead, why is it that when he went out the rest of the all-star Rockets were not able to simple re-build the lead? I guess Tracy's stunk so bad it affected the rest of the team.
that's a fair assessment. but i hope you know that tracy wasn't the only one on melo then. and hopefully you also know that jr smith destroyed cbud 2 straight times during that stretch, along with billups. it was just more that denver was going to make a run eventually, and it came after that timeout. i mean, what are timeouts for anyways? i mean, we had a one point deficit v. detroit. tracy came in and it became a 10+ point lead. i'm not gonna sit here and credit tracy for that. WE MADE A RUN (and yes, that came after a timeout too). NBA teams tend to make run, i dont know if fans know that or not.
