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[NBA Fanhouse] McGrady wants to resign here

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by larsv8, Dec 17, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    8 minutes of play cost your team a win? so you're expecting denver, a great home team, to not have runs of their own in their own building?

    oh no, tracy just caused all that. do you seriously believe you just typed that?

    i guess you also credit tracy for helping us win 2 nights ago?
     
  2. Clutch

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    But you're not a fool...

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  3. Dave_78

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    "potentially"

    Were you not watching when the Rockets' lead disappeared with McGrady on the floor? I'm not saying it's all his fault but if you're going to sit there and say having a player on the court who is hurting you for 8 minutes doesn't increase your chances of losing then you're hugging harder than ever.

    I thought McGrady was neutral in the Pistons game. I didn't see him do much either way to affect the outcome of the game.

    Last night he definitely hurt the team but to what extent we can't really measure.
     
  4. t_mac1

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    landry came in a minute after tracy came in and we still had a 6 point lead in that time. i'm glad you're not blaming mandry for that either (who had a -16 in the game :rolleyes: )

    in the 3rd quarter, we TIED THE GAME. and yet we lost the lead. where was tmac then?

    this is just too much. i'm not jocking tmac. that's just one of the dumbest things i've read on this board and you're usually a decent poster, despite our disagreements.
     
  5. EssTooKayTD

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    Interesting read.

    Looks like McGrady is being a little more careful with this words, all while still being his normal honest self (sometimes to a fault in the past).

    90%...makes sense. He commented his knee is not a worry at all. I would guess the 10% is mental and also just readjusting to the faster style of play and playing against other top talent in the league. I mean in practice, sure they go hard but who's the toughest guy he has to guard? Ariza? Budinger? Shane?

    It was good for him to go against Melo. Not like he did any better or worse than anyone else on him.

    I'd really think it's silly that everyone is dissecting each and every step of McGrady. Although I understand why they are. Perhaps we should do that with every player. I think you'll find all do good things, bad things, lazy plays, stupid plays, good plays, etc.

    I personally like to keep our players here. It's funny that Calvin mentioned yesterday on his show that Tracy still had Les on his side. He mentioned that it's not often the owner has a player on draft night with him, discussing who would and would not fit.

    Anyway, I'd like to see him stay, and I'd like to see him do well. His current play is not losing us games. 3 shot attempts so far I think? All good shots. His defense is...acceptable. He does need to turn up the intensity though. Running down court, I've seen him do it on occasions, and sometimes not. Then again, I see the same from all the other guys as well. Just depends on the situation really.

    My assessment of his two games so far?

    Insufficient data.
     
  6. RV6

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    i've been saying we shouldnt be surprised if he's here next year...yet some were so sure that

    Tmac will be gone this summer...

    Tmac will not start the year on the rockets...

    Tmac will not come back from injury as a rocket..

    Tmac will never wear a rockets uniform on the court again...


    what's next? Tmac will be gone by the trading deadline? And then, Houston won't re-sign tmac? Let's wait and see...
     
  7. Dave_78

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    So if Brian Cook came off the bench in the first quarter for 8 minutes you wouldn't have a problem with it? It's only 8 minutes. I mean, a game is a whole 48 minutes.

    I'll repeat this for you, bringing in a player who is hurting you (or did you find McGrady to be productive last night with his 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists and getting lit up by 'Melo to be productive?) for 8 minutes you are decreasing your chances of winning the game.

    I can't believe you are going to argue that 8 minutes of basketball isn't important.
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    I think the title means McGrady wants re-sign (here) and trade.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    did you even watch the game seriously?

    if you actually count melo's touches v. melo, it was exactly 3 times where he was isoed v. tmac. he got 2 free throws and 2 misses (0-2). i call that pretty decent defense.

    tracy got landry 2 wide open shots (but he got blocked under the rim by birdman on one of them).

    in 8 minutes, i call that pretty decent.

    and like i said, WE TIED THE GAME IN THE 3RD QUARTER. so we didn't lose it in those damn 8 minutes. and i can't believe i'm arguing that 8 minutes in the first quarter can lose a game, just from one player who actually did some things on the court.

    brian cook wouldn't make those passes to landry for open shots. brian cook wouldn't guard worth a lick. and brian cook wouldn't do anything but shoot 3s. he would not play in a game regardless unless it's a blowout. wrong comparison.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    UH, Melo scored a layup on Tmac the first time for an and one.

    Carry on.

    DD
     
  11. t_mac1

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    no he didn't. that and-1 was on chuck hayes. the first time tmac was on melo, melo got passed him for a foul for 2 fts.

    just a fact check, but carry on.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    but i can see why people like you would blame that on tmac ;) . he was in during that time so it's easy to blame that on tmac, even when that bucket wasn't scored on him.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    I'm glad to hear McGrady would consider signing another contract with the Rockets after all this. But, I don't expect we'll be getting some hometown discount. If we don't offer market rate at least, I'm sure he'll go. It might all be posturing anyway so that other teams see he's not a discontent.
     
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    You have confirmed to us all that you have no clue.

    There were 5 players on the floor at any one time. Saying he cost us that game is like saying he won the Pistons game for us. You're a hater, plain and simple.


    Now, people are judging his defense base don made and missed shots. Does that mean when Kobe drops 30 battier is the ****s? Considering Tracy has played 16 minutes in 10 months, he did really well.



    To finalise. YOU DO NOT WIN OR LOSE A GAME IN 8 MINUTES!
     
  15. SuperMarioBro

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    Yep, I agree.

    Hopefully McGrady can get at least somewhat back into form soon, though, and people will start to back off at least a little... Way too much of the hate is gossipy speculation, even from Clutch himself.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So if Hayes get's burned it's T-mac's fault now???? C'mon dude.


    Sheeeessh!
     
  17. Dave_78

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    I watched the game. You're a nut if you honestly think 8 minutes of basketball doesn't affect the outcome. I'm done with this argument. Any rational person sees what is going on here.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    This is too easy go to :24 seconds of that video and watch Melo blow by Tmac from the right block for the and one.

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    One can only conclude that you are 100% blinded by your mancrush.

    I deal in facts, let me know when you start to.....!

    Three blind mice, see how they run......

    This post proves 100% why people can not believe anything you TCrushers say....I mean you don't deal in reality...at all........

    He can do NO wrong.........It is UN FRICKEN REAL !

    DD
     
  19. AXG

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    No way! $9-10 million is too much for an oft-injured, declining player. If the Rockets choose to re-sign him, it should be a MLE-type deal for about 2-3 years perhaps with team options after the first year.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Getting lit up? Melo scored 2 ft's against t-mac and missed two shots. That's ok. And he took 1 shot. He also would have had three assists if Landry could convert.

    This is hilarious, people say oh - the rockets were -10 with him on the floor yesterday....it is his fault!

    But against the Pistons when they were +10? Oh....he was just "nuetral"

    A lot of bias going on here.
     

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