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[Movie] THE MATRIX 4 : Resurrections

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Xerobull, Jun 25, 2019.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Ironically the movie ended nearly identically to the first one. But yeah, it was high on camp and it does seem it was intentional to make a movie that more about making a statement about the first and to leave the franchise alone.

    It really was a mockery of the men's right movement more than anything else and I for one hope we never see another matrix movie ever again.
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    Apparently they just had an online video game launch with Lana and the cast reprising their roles.

    I guess it's a mockery within a mockery all the way to the bank.

    Won't be surprising if Lana drops more code words that she's fighting the beast from within when word of another mediocre to awful sequel comes out
     
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    I watched in on Saturday on HBO and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, it was fun to see NEO back and a little bit of humor mixed in. After 20 years I was hoping for something more but it was ok to watch on TV, glad I didn't go to the theatre to see it but I need to watch it again to get a better understanding of what she was trying to accomplish
     
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    I couldn't explain the movie in words but you nailed it. It's a TLDR for millenials. We got everything and nothing at the same time.
     
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  5. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    There's a men's right movement? I feel pretty good about being a dude. I guess I support strong (not b****y) women. I find competent women very attractive.

    The Analyst's comments about how women used to be complacent and easily controlled were a little ham-fisted. It's just weird that a man turned woman wrote these lines into a movie.
     
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    You took the Blue Pill.
     
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    The movie unfortunately also reminded my of just how horrible an actress Jada Pinkett has become. She was clown-level with every line/scene she had.
     
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    The unnecessary Bill and Ted sequel was better
     
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    You really don't know there is a men's right movement?

    I know you know about Incels and their ilk.

    There is a doc about it that I have heard about but have been too lazy to watch.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Pill

    The Red Pill shifts from Jaye's investigation of what she initially believed to be a hate movement to more sympathetic coverage of the movement. The shift is shown in the film through Jaye's questions about her own views on gender, power, and privilege. The Red Pill also discusses issues facing men and boys, including interviews with men's rights activists and those supportive of the movement, such as Paul Elam, founder of A Voice for Men; Harry Crouch, president of the National Coalition for Men; Warren Farrell, author of The Myth of Male Power; and Erin Pizzey, who started the first domestic violence shelter in the modern world. It also includes interviews with feminists critical of the movement, such as Ms. magazine executive editor Katherine Spillar,[4] and sociologist Michael Kimmel. It also contains excerpts from Jaye's video diary.

    Some of the issues discussed as facing men and boys are male suicide rates, workplace fatalities and high-risk jobs, military conscription, lack of services for male victims of domestic violence and rape, higher rates of violent victimization, issues concerning divorce and child custody, disparity in criminal sentencing, disproportionately less funding and research on men's health issues, educational inequality, societal tolerance of misandry, male genital mutilation, men's lack of reproductive rights, life expectancy, false rape allegations, paternity fraud and homelessness.[5]
     
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  11. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Oh... that connects the dots on what this 'Cobra' Tate guy was ranting about in this podcast. He often says 'escape the Matrix' and rails against systems of control including the pandemic. I liked a lot of what he says but he's a douchebag with different life priorities than me. I can see through his schtick because I've known guys like him.



    I suppose this is all a matter of course, everything is organized now with the internet.

    Reviewing the wikipedia entries, I can't say I disagree with some of the arguments. Divorce, crime and child custody are pretty heavily skewed. I'm not sure if it's a swing of the fulcrum of our society- women got frontloaded on rights for so long that men's rights didn't keep up or were buried in some areas as a backlash. As a white man, I just accept that the pros outweigh the cons for me. Interesting reading.
     
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    Divorce, crime and child custody are skewed to has the best lawyer, and what exactly is a men's right?

    Women just got the right to vote in the 19th century, and when have men ever been seen as 2nd class citizens?

    Ok that's a bit much no need to reply in a thread about the matrix, I just don't understand the thinking that men have ever had their rights impeded on because they were male.
     
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    Innovative use of strawberries in sci-fi.
     
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    So the wife and I finally saw this over the weekend. A little backstory first:

    Loved the first movie as much as any movie up to that point in my life. Loved the 2nd one almost as much, despite a lot of critical backlash. The 3rd one made me so angry with how it resolved the things the first two brought up -- like final season of Lost level angry. Prior to watching Resurrections, the wife and I decided to rewatch the trilogy. I actually was surprised by how unfairly I treated the 3rd one. It wasn't near as bad as I thought, just a few bad moments/scenes that kind of brought things down and some answers to mysteries that were not what I was expecting. So, that's my head space leading into watching the 4th movie.

    I hated it. I don't know what I expected, but it was so far off from what I thought it would be. The movie goes from being a Matrix trilogy recap to ham-fisted social commentary, to a full on comedy in some moments to a heist movie to a freaking zombie movie. That might be commendable if those different elements had been done well and blended in some comprehensible way. But they weren't. Instead it felt like a bizarre mish-mash of a movie that had no idea what it wanted other than to satirize society with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. When they brought the actor back that played the Merovingian just so he could be in the background during a (bad) fight scene screaming at the viewer about vague problems with society today, I was pretty much done with the movie, but stuck around until the end.

    I didn't care about any of the characters (including Neo...which baffled me that they managed to accomplish that). Maybe if I go back into it and rewatch with some different expectations I won't have quite so violent a negative reaction...but if I do that it will have to be in at least a year or so. I'm not subjecting myself to this again. I'm glad some people managed to enjoy it, but it felt like a huge waste of 2.5 hours of my time. The only good thing I will say about the movie is it caused me to revisit Matrix Revolutions, and made me realize I had judged it a bit unfairly. So there's that.

    Maybe I'll be saying the same thing in a few years about Resurrections...but I doubt it.
     
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    Now that's a review.

    Going to be awhile I watch it.
     
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    Quit being a cuck.

    Even women don't like cucks.
     
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    Just finished watching it.

    my reaction:
    What the hell was that?
     
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  19. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    After some time to digest this movie, I realize that it was a massive missed opportunity and just stupid.

    They could have highlighted the robot war, which would have been amazing.

    The better track would have been to just leave the old cast behind and start a new chapter. Maybe the Earth has healed and the robots and humans live together in harmony, with a cyborg faction. They could be exploring space together. Then something something happens, factions, hacking, aliens, martial arts and guns, etc.

    Big whiff. We didn’t need an old folks reunion.
     
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    The Matrix is a lonely child, who's waiting by the park
    The Matrix is in charge of finding treasure in the dark
    And watching over lucky clover, isn't that bizarre?
    And every little thing the Matrix does
    Leaves you answered with a question mark...
     
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