Sheff Knoblauch Stanton Giambi Petite Clemens These are all guys who played prominent roles on our teams at one time or another. the Sox have Crawford Donnelly Gagne Manny Alexander and some other jobbers.
I'm not saying there was one or wasn't one. What I've said is it's hard to accept it as an unbiased report considering the source.
The only big Yankees I see is former Red Sox member Clemens, who is apparently semi-retired, and who has been implicated with steroids for years - and Pettite. Where are the others? Knoblauch? Yeah he is a real icon of pinstripe glory EDIT: I see you are trotting out Jason Giambi - consdierng that he has openly admitted using steroids I don't see where your grounds for complaint are. I also see you strategically omitted Jose Canseco for whom the same is true (formerly of the red sox). I also see you listing Sheffield (who has been implicated in BALCO, and who has publicly trashed the Yankees in the last year). Give it up. Let me ask you another question. How many internall investigations have you participated in for a large law firm? I have particpated in several. They are very large, very comprehensive, involve numerous people, thousands of hours, lots of consultants, and most of all very expensive. I generally recall taking our obligations quite seriously to investigate all matters on behalf of the client and to set aside personal biases - in fact I did that with pretty much every case I was on. DLA Piper is a fairly well respected firm, I have no doubt they had 20+ people (probably from their NYC and Washington offices) working on this report, I'm sure those people had all sorts of rooting interests in MLB. If most of them are respectable attorneys, which i presume they are and have no reason to do otherwise I presume that they, as they have done thousands of times before, were able to set these types of things aside as they did the job that MLB paid them to do. The fact that you people think that something this serious is affected by something so petty indicates that you are not familiar with this kind of work.
OK, seriously -- George Mitchell was once the Senate Majority Leader and was offered a seat on the Supreme Court of the United States of America. He helped spearhead a peace agreement in Ireland. While in Washington, he had an impeccable reputation as a man of character and integrity. Do you really think he'd throw all that away in order to inject personal bias into a report about baseball? I, for one, tend to doubt that he would.
Palmeiro was listed. He told officials he thought his positive test was a result of taking one of Tejada's B12 shots.
No please, since he published well known, already publicized facts surrounding admitted drug users like Giambi - he obviously hates the Yankees.
Stanton and Knoblauch played very prominent roles for the Yankees during our championship years. If you are not aware of it, please don't say anyhting about it. I'm talking about prominent players here. Was Jose a prominent player for the Sox ever? no thanks for the mild chiding Sam no I don't know too much about it, but unless you're telling me that every single corporation or organization is like MLB where they're really 32 separate entities who work together and each has their own agenda, I won't really put too much into the whole "experience" angle.
I agree. There was no bias. George Mitchell did the best job he could under the circumstances. The most damning part of the report is Clemens. There has been speculation for years but this paints a very detailed picture. He didn't mind getting a shot in the ass 4 to 6 times a week but stay away from the belly button.
I just think in a situation like this, it is important to avoid all appearance of impropriety. I do not think that George Mitchell would intentionally target the Yankees because he works for the Red Sox. But I do think his objectivity and his willingness to dig deep into his own organization is questionable. If the Gasoline "industry" were going to do a consumer report to determine which gasoline was the one all Americans should buy, how would it look if they appointed a VP of Exxon to run the study? If America adopting a national healthcare program and was going to select one current carrier to administer it, how would it look if they asked the CFO of Aetna to evaluate and determine which one is the best?
That's a completely different station. I must have missed the part of the report that said the Red Sox were the best organization ever. If the gasoline industry wanted to do a report on corruption, and the VP of Exxon was a former senator and had been offered a job as a supreme court justice, I'd say he'd be a pretty damn good person to lead the investigation. Someone had to lead this investigation and it had to be someone involved in the industry otherwise this person wouldn't have had anyone to talk to. You need an insider to clean these things up.
Are you kidding me? None of the players opened up to him anyway. And sorry, if a VP of Exxon led an investigation into price gouging in the gasoline industry and his ultimate report said that his company had only participated to a small degree but that his biggest competitor was big time into it, you really think the American public would view that as credible?
If most of the competitors had already admitted to it, I don't think it would be a stretch to believe.
Dear Yankees fan, You don't have to be a Boston fan to hate the Yankees. Signed, Fans of the 28 other teams in MLB.
yes through ROger's trainer. I know the trail and why so many yankees are on it. My real problem is that I think that because of his connection to the Sox, I don't tink he put in too much time into checking out his organization
It's not comparable. The VP of Exxon has presumably made the gas and oil industry his life's work. Baseball was a tiny, tiny portion of what Mitchell's done during his adult life. You can't compare someone who spent a lifetime in public service with an Exxon VP.
I'm not saying it's hard to believe any of this stuff. I don't think he's a liar and made these names up or anything like that. I just think MLB made a poor choice by having an employee of a major league team do this investigation. We can just agree to disagree on this.
Knoblauch becamea media whipping boy, and ridden out of town in disgust. Nobody gives a sh-t about Knoblauch. Stanton is a freaking middle reliever. You are saying that Geroge Mitchell is out to savage the 3rd reliever out of the pen 6 years ago? STFU? No actually you're talking about role players and then acting like they're Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Alex Rodriguez, Bernie Williams, and Joe Torre. But as for your report Uh, actually he had one client - the Commissioner of Major League Baseball. This is very clearly spelled out in the prominently-displayed title of the report, which is "Report to the Commissioner Baseball of an Independent Investigation....etc" Anyway, yes I have dealt with internal investigations of corporations with various subsidiaries and divisions and all sorts of competing personal loyalties and professional fiefdoms. This report was relatively simple compared to those. But anyway I don't see any evidence that you have posited that suggests DLA Piper did not conduct their investigation in the same way any other top dollar outfit would have.
