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Kyle Lowry, anyone?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Jan 5, 2014.

  1. Play07

    Play07 Member

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    Correct, Houston is the last place a SOLID pg wants to come play at in their prime, they want to be on a team where they get to run the offense
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    Clutch, I am sure you know hear than most of us about the McHale/Lowry deal. But I wonder if it would not make sense to pay market price for him, make him the starter and hope it works out this season and deal with the contract situation come summer.

    Lowry is a seriously excellent NBA player. The guys has been productive for years and is now carrying the Raptors as he carried the Rockets as the best player on some >.500 teams. If we look at RAPM, he'd be ranked around 30th-40th in the entire league in each of the last 3 years.

    He is a big difference maker and this is a team that is potentially one difference maker away from being truly top tier. Not many of this type of guys around. This team is in "win now mode," isn't it?

    I think other teams want him for sure, but not sure if anyone is willing to pay more than "rental" price for him. After all, he is going to be an unrestricted FA and even if he says now he likes his new team, there is no telling whether he'll still feel the same way by the end of the season and by the summer when $s are being offered.

    If HOU trades Asik for, say, Bass, the "150%" salary difference rule under the CBA actually would allow HOU to take back Lowry's contract without giving out any contracts. To me, it would seem that giving Toronto, say, HOU's 2014 1st rounder and a couple 2nd rounders or rights to European guys would be as good as any offer Toronto gets.

    And it doesn't matter whether HOU includes any of its other PGs in a trade. Got enough depth if one of them is traded, but also doesn't matter if one or more of them gets benched because of Lowry, who is really REALLY good.
     
  3. wiseguyX

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    Lowry and George Karl
     
  4. fallenphoenix

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    this would be amazing.
     
  5. b2bizchina

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    I don't trust in Morey
    Why did he hired McHale?
    Why did he let Lowry go? Yes,u guys say that we trade Lowry to get Harden, but I don't think so.It's completely luck to get Harden. Morey had traded Lowry because he thought Lin would be better than Lowry.
    Fire McHale,Bring back Lowry, and try to hire Casey who will be a champion coach
     
  6. zcarenow

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    he will be watching harden do his thing and be in a similar situation as lin, so i doubt he wants to come back. then you have that deal with mchale and him. also, this is his contract year, so he is playing really well right now.
     
  7. fooshayd

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    I am all for getting lowry if we are getting rid of McHale. Make it happen Morey!
     
  8. Kiddsir

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    McHale and Morey are still here.
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    Lin was still a restricted FA when Lowry was traded. The team wasn't choosing one over another. The team decided that a 1st round pick (with two way protection) is a more valuable asset than Lowry would be going forward in a trade scenario. They decided that if the team gets worse without Lowry, then they rebuild.

    Remember, Lowry was valuable in part because of his low $ contract-- as the contract gets shorter, it becomes less valuable as a trade chip.
     
  10. tonyrock

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    No way Lowry would agree to play for Mchale.
     
  11. aurocketfan

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    We donot need a PG coz Harden is our real PG on this team.
    What we need is a stretch 4 and a backup center maybe. Then we can contend.
    You donot want to have Lowry or Rondo come in here and fight for possessions with Harden.
     
  12. mac_got_this

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    How about we take a look at the other of in Toronto, Greivis Vasquez. He was a a really good pg for the hornets a year ago. I think he average 10 assist. And he could shoot. He's rotting on the bench in toronto
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    If he wants to get paid next summer, he will play.
     
  14. CasaDolce

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    I'm all for bringing Lowry back if it means Jeremy getting traded.

    Lowry won't pout if he's the starter, right? He'll even get his #7 back, so I don't see any problems.
     
  15. b2bizchina

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    Yes, Lin was still a restricted FA when Lowry was traded. but Morey was sure that Knicks wouldn't match his poise contract, he knew he could get Lin, this was also the reason that he didn't worry about Dragic to go anywhere
     
  16. Spooner

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    So you think staying mediocre for years to come was better than blowing the team up? Your telling me a lottery protected first isn't worth more than Lowry? No one thought Lin would be better than Lowry, that was a marketing ploy first and foremost. If you honestly believe thats the reason for trading Lowry, you don't really understand a lot of the nuances of management. On top of that, you are just making assumptions based on no rational thought. Morey wanted to stock pile assets until he could make a trade. It didn't have to be Harden, but eventually someone would bight. In the meantime, it was better to tank than be the 9th seed year in, year out. Toronto traded for Lowry, you think they are in any better position now? In any case, it isn't even as if Lowry wanted to play here. And lol at Dwayne Casey.
     
  17. rhino17

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    Hell no, can't stand hin
     
  18. Spooner

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    A mediocre at best shooter and one of the worst defensive liabilities ever. And that is supposed to help us? His passing isn't as valuable when he's playing off ball. Think about the team, and ask yourself if that's what we need.

    PAAAAAASSS.
     
  19. Spooner

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    You are basing everything off of unfounded assumptions. The Knicks claimed they would match any offer way before the Lowry trade. Morey and Dragic really tried to make it work if you remember.
     
  20. Panda23

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    I just don't see how it would work. Lowry and McHale's relationship is too far gone in my opinion, its a pity because he'd be a big upgrade.
     

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