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Jordan: 'I could have scored 100 points' in today's NBA

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ktbballplaya, Oct 14, 2010.

  1. goodbug

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    Shaq wasn't happy he didn't get paid, that's the reason he wanted to be traded. It's well known for many years now. And you replace Kobe with Shaq for that team, they have trouble to win 30 games too. An 14-game absent Kobe could only help them win 34 games the year before. Without the trade, they don't have Bulter/Kwame, Odom, Shaq usuallys misses 20 games a year, you think it would be better? LOL.

     
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    Once again, you're focusing on averages when you shouldn't be.

    No one thinks Jordan will be able to hit 100 pts if he takes 34 shots. IMO, if he gets 100 pts, he'll have between 60-70 shots. When Wilt did it, he took 63 shots.

    Stop basing all your arguments on averages. Garbage in, garbage out.
     
  3. KALIKULI

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    Only Dennis Rodman can put a strong defense against MJ!
     
  4. Scram

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    Yes i was saying that kobe didnt do as much in everygame but he had games that he only attacked and the reason he didnt have to attack as much in every game is he has a better Jumper.
     
  5. wekko368

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    Are you seriously denying there was a feud between Shaq and Kobe?

    Shaq missed about 15 games per year for his final few years with the Lakers.

    And let's not forget that in 04-05, Shaq shot 60% from the field. He was still a beast.
     
  6. wekko368

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    So you're saying that prime Kobe was more of a jump shooter than a slasher and a prime Jordan was more of a slasher than a jump shooter.

    In other words, prime Kobe did not play like prime Jordan.
     
  7. goodbug

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    And you deliberately omitted Charles Oakley, who's a Ben Wallace of that decade. And Kobe actually played Jordan in his rookie years. In 97 and 98, they had some head to head games, and Jordan didn't really best Kobe in those games. Sure Jordan was already old at that time, but he's still considered the best player and Kobe's just a rookie. There's no such thing as a different level.

     
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    So the feud is now Kobe's problem? Shaq has been having trouble with Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Mo. And Kobe's mostly having trouble with Shaq only. So Kobe's the problem? Kobe didn't shout "pay me" in front of Buss in a preseason game.

     
  9. goodbug

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    MJ can't find 60-70 shots. Particularly in today, when there's no illegal defense. Swarm him in 3 points line and double/triple without the ball otherwise, all's left is contested 3 points. MJ will have trouble to get 20 if that's the goal of opposing team, let alone 100.

     
  10. wekko368

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    Both Shaq and Kobe were directly responsible for the feud, and as a result, Kobe was directly responsible for the weak supporting cast he had.
     
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    Why would he struggle to get to 20? Wades high in 09 was 34. Melo hit 35 twice. Bron hit 31. Kobe got 30 multiple times last year and hit 37 once. So how is it that MJ couldn't hit 20?
     
  12. wekko368

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    Opposing teams don't double/triple perimeter players without the ball.

    If Jordan wanted the ball, he'd get the ball. And if he were double/triple teamed, I can easily imagine him initiating the contact and shooting free throws.
     
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    He's saying that the opposing team, using their telepathic ability, would discover Jordan's intent to score 100 pts. And they would forsake any chance of winning just to prevent this from happening.

    And to make sure this didn't happen, they would have 3 defenders guarding Jordan at all times.
     
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    Charles Oakley was a rookie in 1986 and far from being the "Ben Wallace of that decade."

    Kobe scored a total of 10 points in two games against the Bulls as a rookie in 1996-97. In his second year, he did play quite well against the Bulls, though.
     
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    nothing to see here, just him helping them sell the new video game, doing it by engaging in his favorite pass time.... contributing to the embellishment of his legend and denigrating others.
     
  16. goodbug

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    He's the rebounding champion in 87 already, 20/15. How does that compare to any help Kobe got before Gasol trade?

    In 86 as a rookie, he got 10/10, and he's already a better defense presence than Odom ever was.

     
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    All right, I mess up the numbers here. He got 9.6/8.6 and 14.5/13.1. But the number in his 2nd season was obviously better than Odom ever got in Lakers.

     
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    The rules were different for Jordan than the rest of the NBA. If Jordan missed someone was going to get called for a foul 99% of the time. He was truly great but the refs made him greater.
     
  19. goodbug

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    Kobe wasn't a starter the first year, what do you expect? But Jordan never beat him face to face in an NBA game. He had 55 points game against MJ before the latter was retiring for the last time.

    Sure MJ was 40 old in 03, but MJ should know how Kobe's unstoppable when he's hot. It's not like phyical can make a difference.

     
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    If the outcome of the game was decided by if Jordan can get 20, they'd lose almost every time.

    People are describing how MJ can take every shot to get 100, of course the opposing team can counter too.

     

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