[John McWhorter] Is it racist to expect black kids to do math for real?

Handel is one of my top 5 of anything go to for studying. Any other suggestions??

 

The piece that got me hooked on listening to classical music way back in grade school was this:



I remember a class where we had to do a presentation on a historical figure and I chose Mozart simply so I could have an excuse to play this music to the classroom. The Mozart piano concerti, especially the later ones, are all masterpieces.

 

Nothing about western music being taught means supreme, but he frames it this way; IE his unconscious bias is showing. He's the only one suggesting the fact that the people writing most of the music happened to be white because of geography implies supremacy. It's like he's damning the whole system because not all professors went to India to master foreign niches like Punjabi classical rather than just teaching based on an evolved set of traditions within their learned sphere. If you looked past the 17th century, you'll find all sorts of changes that take place which can still be broken down by classic music theory as it evolved and then as you need you can make contributions. You can still take a Rock song and analyze a chord progression with music theory that dates back to the Greeks. You can analyze EDM as well. Just because the books are part of an academic evolutionary line isn't racist or supremacist. Instead of complaining, he should go write a modern music theory book. I bet it would be awesome too, because he is extremely open minded and knowledgeable about various modern forms. But instead of creating, he is about "deconstruction". Or, basically in layman's terms, destroying. This is typical of an entitled generation that wants fame and attention the easy way. Anyone with half a brain can destroy something. But to create something; that is what takes talent. It's a shame he wastes his on such endeavors. I'm sure his music, that he creates, is great though. A shame his academic pursuits aren't up to par.

 

Also for this thread... the argument about racism and math is ridiculous. Most of the people seeking to deconstruct, or really just destory, our current academic world are either A: Lazy, entitled, and want the attention of being a destroyer and the brownie points for being so clever to point out what millions haven't noticed before somehow or B: sociopath assholes intent on destroying western society because they have a chip on their shoulder and need professional help.

 

True

math and science are the only subjects that can’t be manipulated

like how many nba finals has Harden taken the Rockets to?
The answer is 0

doesn’t matter what race or gender or age
That answer is always the same
@Reeko

here’s another math problem
Add the total number of nba finals games Mike D Antoni and Tracy McGrady started in

 

I don't recommend taking Chemistry as a 10th grader. It could cause you to miss a portion of your basketball season. Doesn't matter what your race is.

 

The D&D is full of art history dropouts
They can’t figure out which ones are Monet and which are Renoir
Doubt they understand basic geometry

 

Ahhh I meant any more German composers. Mozart and Handel are really the two I have listened to the most.

 

I guess the main issue here is what CRT means to the average person and what it's proposing to change. I've seen it thrown around in Con circles but not woke enough to see what it means for both sides.

Not sure if removing sheet music adds anything culturally, as destruction for the sake of isn't really productive in any conversation.

As for introducing a wider spectrum of music...why not? Eurocentrism mostly dying on its own increasingly sterile weight.

 

Sounds pretty on brand for far left social constructionists/post-modern thinking.

These ideas never go anywhere, thankfully. The dragon of chaos has a habit of eating itself.

 

I like that saying but in that carnage a lot of other things and people get eaten as well.

 

The article makes it seem like it's already been implemented when it's actually about to enter review to decide whether to implement it or not. I hope it gets shot down. I also disagree entirely with letting some students opt out of mathematics if it's not for them like the author suggests. Math is just logic. Even someone working a register at a grocery store needs to understand basic arithmetic. Everyone at some point takes out a loan. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone was familiar with basics like percentages so they don't get fleeced by poorly written contracts?

And saying Calculus is overrated? It's the math that got us to the moon. It's the math that helps figure out murders by using Calculus to figure out bullet trajectory to see where shells and bullets have landed to collect as evidence for investigations. It's one of the most precise languages to describe motion in time ever thought of. And while not necessary for every career, it would be useful if everyone had a better understanding of it, if only to appreciate the positive impact it's had on society as a whole and that it is one of the best methods at describing what's real.

 

Some polticians would rather address inequality through gaslighting social agendas rather than actually tackling root causes such as disparities in early childhood education rates, homeownership rates, excess incarceration so on and so forth.

It's what leads to failed policies like affirmative action. Stuff like affirmative action addresses problems when they are too late. You need to address disparities in math education between people in poor communties and well off suburbs by giving children in poor communties more resources rather than just arbitrarily evening the playing field when it's too late.

And not learning calculus in high school creates a signficant disadvantage for students who want to pursue a STEM education as most kids who enter college entering engineering and science majors are taking multivariable calculus by their freshman year already. So the kids who didn't take AP calc are going to be far behind and those courses build off each other and are prerequisites for the rest of their engineering or science curriculum causing students to be multiple semesters behind if they start off with calc 1 in their first year.

 

Ya like 90% of my mechanical engineering education was centered around calculus. It is literally the language of physics.

 

California actually banned all the lower level math classes from community colleges, so while we all hope this garbage goes nowhere, sadly sometimes it does. The community college my mom teaches at fired most of their part time math teachers after the ban.

 

I don't know if these are far left activists or polticians who'd rather not address systemic economic issues head on.

 

once again, OG is easily fooled by intellectually dishonest half-assed writers.

anyone who has an understanding of the education system knows that $ talks. BS walks.

Calif DOE, like any other DOE, will not walk away from easy $ (funding for math, science and AP classes. etc)

my sister is a school teacher in the LAUSD, who is forever encouraging teachers to identify 4-baggers, minority students enrolled in AP math, AP science, ESL.

4-baggers will generate 4 additional sources of funding



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Liar.

And you have the nerve to bring your mom into it.