I Just Decided To Watch Glenn Beck For A Couple Of Minutes...

Their niche market is stupid/uninformed people:

From another Pew report:

 

Even your elected officials realize Acorn but is nothing but a corrupt organization.
It is actually one bill that our senate and house has agreed on with such overwhelming numbers. Obama just needs to sign it in law now. I don't see why he wouldn't since it was not even a close vote.


CBS/AP) The House voted Thursday to deny all federal funds for ACORN in a GOP-led strike against the scandal-tainted community organizing group that comes just three days after the Senate took similar action.

"ACORN has violated serious federal laws, and today the House voted to ensure that taxpayer dollars would no longer be used to fund this corrupt organization," said second-ranked House Republican Eric Cantor of Virginia.

The vote, on a provision attached to a student aid bill, was 345-75, with Democrats supplying all the "no" votes.

On Monday the Senate voted 83-7 to deny housing and community grant funding to ACORN, which stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The votes were on different bills, so it could be a while before such a cut-off gets a final vote" to get through Congress, notes CBS News Correspondent Bob Fuss. President Obama would then need to sign the bill for it to become law.

Republicans accelerated their attacks on the liberal-leaning group a year ago when ACORN, in conducting a massive voter registration drive, was accused of submitting some false registration forms.

On a hidden-camera video released on Monday, two ACORN employees are seen apparently advising a couple that was posing as a prostitute and her pimp to lie about her profession and launder her earnings. The video was the latest in a series that has already led to the firing of four ACORN employees in Baltimore and Washington. It was created by James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles and posted on BigGovernment.com, where O'Keefe identifies himself as an activist filmmaker.

ACORN spokesman Scott Levenson blasted the video shot at the organization's Brooklyn office, saying the group believes the voices of the couple were dubbed over to alter the conversation and make the interaction appear more objectionable than it may have been.

ACORN said Wednesday that it is ordering its own independent investigation of the incidents, while stressing that they were isolated cases.

The Census Bureau, meanwhile also has severed its ties with the group for the 2010 national census.

Republicans have urged federal officials to go further by launching a comprehensive investigation of how ACORN spends and manages federal money.

"As long as taxpayers are subsidizing ACORN and its affiliates, we need to use every measure possible to ensure that those dollars are being spent and managed appropriately," said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., sponsor of the measure that passed the House.

 

geee, ya think?

 

lol. Please link to proof of voter fraud. You said it was proven and that it was fact. Please don't try and reframe the argument.

I already agree to scandals and probably to corruption but there is absolutely, positively, no proof of voter fraud. Perhaps you are using the term in a clumsy fashion? False voter registration is not voter fraud.

Accordingly, accusations of "probably stealing the election" are daft.


EDIT: And they're not "my" elected officials and ACORN is an organization that I am not affiliated with or necessarily supportive of. I like the idea of what they intend to do, but that's about as far as I go.

 

Not sure why you decided to selectively edit my post, which didn't even much to do with the rest of the discourse in the thread. But, since you brought it up, of the 3 obstacles I mentioned, the land problem might be the easiest to overcome. With guns and like-minded friends, you could squat on a tract of land and see what you can do. Of course, he probably knows as much about firing a gun as he does about raising a crop.

 

I have said I don't believe Acorn stole the election at all. I may have used "probably" in the wrong way there. But let me reiterate again I don't think they stole the election.

Also how can you say necessarily supportive of. You should clearly be against Acord since time after time there has only been corruption, scandals, and fraud.

I find it funny how the strongest argument they could have was pointing out the difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud. Some defense that is. IT"S FRAUD!! If they are so corrupt to as to commit voter registration fraud don't you think they will commit other frauds too? It doesn't have to be proven in this case since it is clear the organization is very corrupt.


http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/01/inside-acorn-vote-fraud-scam.html

Over the last several election cycles, employees of the community organizing group ACORN were found to have forged thousands of voter registrations in dozens of states. According to former ACORN officials, as many as half of all of the group's voter registrations were fraudulent. And the total number of bogus submissions by the group's employees during the last election cycle alone could be as high as 600,000.

ACORN's defenders have repeatedly downplayed the crimes by highlighting the differences between registration fraud and vote fraud itself. But the registrations are only one element of the scam.

Bogus Voter Registration + Fraudulent Absentee Ballot = Democrat Victory
During the run-up to the 2008 New Jersey gubernatorial election, John Fund noted that state officials had received a startling 180,000 requests for absentee ballots. A "new loosely written vote-by-mail law" reportedly discourages county clerks from closely validating the signatures on absentee ballots, which is the only method of verification.

ACORN's preferred method appears to combine a fraudulent voter registration with an equally bogus absentee ballot. For this reason, observers speculate, the last few election cycles have seen huge increases in the number of absentee ballots cast.

Big Government reports that this sort of fraud was endemic to the 2008 election cycle. In Troy, New York, "[d]ozens of forged and fraudulent absentee ballots from people registered to vote on the Working Families Party line were filed in the Sept. 15 primary elections... the fraudulent ballots were handled by or prepared on behalf of various elected officials and leaders and operatives for the Democratic and Working Families parties." In fact, some ballots may have been cast with stolen identities.

A quick review of headlines helps illustrate the trend:

• WBOC, 2008: "Delaware Voters Complete Record Number of Absentee Ballots".

• STLtoday, 2008: "Absentee ballots double in St. Louis, increase statewide".

Seattle Times, 2008: "After King County Elections sends a batch of absentee ballots today, the office will have mailed a record 742,000 absentee ballots."

• NOLA, 2008: "Record number of absentee ballots cast in Maine."

• Fairfax County, 2006: Virginia absentee ballots numbered 110,000 in '06, an increase of 65,000 compared to the last off-year election.

• Washington Post, 2006: "A record 166,000 Maryland voters... requested absentee ballots."

Absentee ballots, in conjunction with fraudulent voter registrations, are the simplest method to steal elections. This appears to be ACORN's strategy of choice.

Coleman vs. Franken
By far the most insidious tactic used by ACORN and related groups is the "found ballot". Whenever election outcomes are razor thin, you can expect that ACORN's thousands of voter registrations -- along with absentee ballots -- will be "discovered" to add new votes to the Democrat candidate's total.

After initially leading failed radio host Al Franken by 725 votes, incumbent Senator Norm Coleman of Minnesota ended up losing the race after a series of bizarre recounts.

• The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported that "the state Canvassing Board approved the use of Election Day results for 133 Minneapolis ballots that can't be found and also recommended that counties sort and count absentee ballots that were mistakenly rejected." This decision gave Franken most of his winning margin.

• In Ramsey County, "the recount showed that there were 171 more ballots than recorded votes", yet the ballots were counted, and Franken picked up nearly 40 more votes.

 

Again, please link to any convictions of voter fraud committed by Acorn. It should be easy.


I can list several convictions of republican vote suppression and tampering.

 

I was merely confirming to you that I was not necessarily defending ACORN out of affiliation or political conveniance.

It's a huge difference.

First of all, you said it was proven. Now, not surprisingly, your claim is that proof is unnecessary. Shocking.

Regardless, this is a very silly argument, and one that I would hope a person of your education would realize is bereft of logic. I am trying to maintain some sort of mature discourse with you, but comments like this make it rather difficult. Is it that hard to just say "Damn I was wrong and I looked like a fool."?

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=181782

 

Dude, #9? and a '99er? Tinman must be so jealous...

Spoiler

Sorry tin-dude, couldn't resist.

 

A strange coincidence that I did the exact same thing yesterday. I was getting ready to leave the house while flipping channels and decided to take in a few minutes of Beck on Fox for the first time (I've seen him a few times on CNN).

I was amazed at the amount of times he said communism, socialism, 'our children are in danger' and 'the world as we know it will end' in just five minutes. I've seen the parodies, and quite frankly they aren't far off. This dude is an expert in scare tactics. What pains me is how obvious the pandering and showmanship was, but so many people eat it up as 'a call to arms.'

I'm frightened for our future, but not for the same reasons he is. We are in danger if so many of us are this gullible.

 

fascinating- i suppose sometime I'll have to watch to see what all the fuss is about...or maybe Batman could tell me- he seems to spend a lot of time regarding the fox news team.

 

Pray tell, where do you go for news and commentary? What do you read or watch or listen to regularly?