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Heroes [Season 3]

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ChrisBosh, Sep 21, 2008.

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  1. CharlieMurphy

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    I took it to as Peter wanting to know how Nathan's mind works, why his mind works the way it does, why he thinks the way he does, etc.

    A better way to phrase would to say, "how does cutting a person's head open and knowing how their mind works differ from simply reading their mind."

    Which brings me to this question, if you knew how someone's mind works, wouldn't you able to read their mind all the time?

    This show is pretty damn confusing. Just my two cents.
     
  2. Nero

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    I think people are making too much of Peter's attack on Nathan. Peter had just acquired what was essentially a powerful addiction (the 'hunger') and more than likely did not rationally realize what he was doing until he had started doing it. When he realized what he was doing, he stopped.

    It's irrational. Just like the actions of everyday people with serious addictions, when lucid they know perfectly well that what they do in order to feed their addictions is wrong, harmful and self-destructive. And yet they still do those things, which is irrational behavior. The irrationality is empowered by the nature of addiction itself.

    Same thing with Peter and Sylar. This is significant because it moves Sylar from evil antagonist into being a sympathetic character at odds with his own nature. He will be the 'haunted' character, the one much more likely to be able to resist the hunger's impulses than Peter. Much more likely now that Peter becomes the bad guy because he does not yet have any built-up guilt from years of failing to stop himself from committing heinous acts.
     
  3. Microfridge

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    I thought this episode was crazy with a lot of off-the-wall stuff happened. I like how they finally revealed the company's name though. If you google that name it'll lead to a website much like Primatech's :)

    Based on the previews, next week will be a fantastic one too.
     
  4. emjohn

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    I believe that is actually a "rival" company and not the same one. Vortex implied as such when he asked Claire if she was from that one if she wasn't actually with The Company.

    I thought the episode was fine. They are doing a good job increasing the action on a show-to-show basis and I like the influx of characters that they're happy to promptly kill off to satisfy our base desires as viewers.

    I find it somewhat funny that Max Cherry from Jackie Brown is going to be our Big Bad. I do like the return of Malcolm McDowell, even if he is only a projection from Parkman's dad. Puppet Master! I do get a kick how Heroes has been a complete re-imagining of the Marvel Universe. I don't think it's a coincidence that Daphne (Lady Flash) has Quicksilver's white hair.

    Still not a fan in the slightest of Sylar's complete 180 as a character and the flimsy writing that has given us "Dark Peter"....but it is what it is.

    Evan
     
  5. The_Yoyo

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    thought the episode last night was pretty decent.

    i didnt like how hiro just went and stabbed ando so willingly and that he was pretty quick to sign up with daphne. imo hiro has gone from funny to just downright annoying.

    curious now what the petrellis have going on it will be interesting to see.
     
  6. Cannonball

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    My theory is that Hiro stopped time (w/Ando) and they made a plan and used a fake blood pack or something and then resumed their roles and Ando isn't really dead. They just didn't show it in this episode to create tension.
     
  7. Storm Surge

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    With the time traveling power you never know what is possible and what is impossible.

    It is possible that they did what you mentioned, it is also possible that Hiro in fact killed Ando for real knowing that he can go back in time and save him whenever he found out the information he was looking for, but by that same token, couldn't he have just gone to the future and found out everything?
     
  8. The_Yoyo

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    but he cant freeze daphne so she would know but then again she seemed to like both ando and hiro...that could be right the sword didnt go that deep into ando.
     
  9. Nero

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    They have taken pains to establish the 'Butterfly Effect' as a means to explain why the characters who have the ability to travel through time will henceforth generally refuse to do so.

    It should be pretty clear that Hiro would never do something so out-of-character as to kill Ando, so obviously something else is going on, and Ando is not really hurt.
     
  10. AGBee

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    They could just say he used his sword training to hit Ando in a non-lethal spot. Ando lives and is pissed.

    This season is becoming cheesier and cheesier.
     
  11. myco

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    How many more characters from The Wire are going to pop up on this show. First Marlo, now Bubbles. Who's next? I pick Bunk.
     
  12. ChrisBosh

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    I don't really like the direction this show has taken, it's going at 140mph in a 70mph zone. Too much going on, lacks focus in my opinion.

    They should spend a little more time to explain what's going on with the characters....Sylar went from a psycho killer to being an angel, he never showed real signs of wanting to stop or battle his 'problem', if he knew how everything worked then he would have known about his addiction and tried to fight it.....just shows how disconnected the show is from one season to the next.....I guess you can't really have this show make too much sense, it's more fun just to turn your brain off and watch it for what it is.
     
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    Sylar to me was never pure evil. When his original mother was around he would be normal and enjoyed being around her. He didn't have the hunger but when she died accidentally he became enraged. There was nothing around to stop him. Mother Petrelli offers that mother figure to him that allows him to try and be good once more. He has a reason to rehabilitate himself now unlike before. He's not completely successful at it though and it's a process for him.

    There was something about Peter having to get sylar's power in order to stop him. I'm guessing Peter now has Sylar's understanding of how things work so he can go back to the past and somehow he needs to remove the powers that Sylar has acquired but at the cost of acquiring the hunger as well. Of course that doesn't really explain why Sylar didn't use his powers in the future when Knox, Daphne, and Claire came to his house.

    As for Peter getting knocked around, it's called a sucker punch. How was he supposed to know Daphne had super speed. These powers obviously take focus to perform. A surprise attack can obviously be effective against even the most powerful of beings.

    I knew that there had to be a logical explanation for Linderman. Thank god because it was driving me nuts.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    I think Peter evidently needed Sylar's power to figure out how Suresh's formula works

    Rocket River
     
  15. TMac640

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    What a crazy EP, both good and bad.

    - With all of the characters and all of the storylines, at times you were wondering just WTF was going on.

    - I'm glad Maya finally got the ax. She was pretty useless other than just eye candy.

    - Sylar and Peter reversing roles was pretty interesting. Perhaps the most intriguing part of that was discovering that Sylar really isn't that bad of a guy after all. Rather, he's actually a semi-likable/redeemable villain whose power creates a constant battle against the "hunger" to learn more (by killing people).

    - Papa Petrelli was just creepy. The guy's in a frickin comatose state and he's able to control people still? A little bit of a stretch, lol.

    - Suresh becoming the human fly is a little lame but his character has become increasingly useless since Season 2, so who cares? :)

    - I wonder if Ando is really dead, or if Hiro did some superfast time-warp where it "looked" like he killed Ando but he's really still alive. Or if he did kill Ando, that he can go back in the past and prevent it or something. I don't know.

    - Lot's of action and plots swirling around, I just hope they don't rev it up to anymore concurrent plots/sub-plots than in tonights ep otherwise it's going to quickly get out of hand for Season 3.
     
  16. Yao_Mac

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    Or Hiro is so desperate to be a hero that he would sacrifice anything and anyone to become that hero...Maybe that's why Ando kills Hiro in the future...Hiro could actually be a villian, but I'm still not convinced that Peter is one, just yet
     
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    Has Hiro always had the ability to teleport people 1) without touching them and 2) without being teleported himself? Did anyone else notice this in the Adam coffin scene? Seems like an important detail to me. If he could do this at will, why didn't he just teleport Daphne into a wall or something when she stole the formula (both times)?
     
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    i think they just did it like that so they wouldn't have to screw around with showing him actually opening the coffin and putting adam back in there.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    That does not make sense
    cause Ando and hiro IMO . .could not physically do that

    Him teleporting people without touching them is weak
    and came out of no where

    Rocket River
     
  20. halfbreed

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    Two guys couldn't open a coffin and put someone else in there?
     

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