1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Chad Ford Insider] Hou working on 4 team deal [Update: Done Deal - Ariza for C Lee]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Convictedstupid, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. BDswangHTX

    BDswangHTX Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,788
    Likes Received:
    123
    wow, yeah i like lee alot. he's got a good head on his shoulders and is a great athlete.

    with that said, we'd be giving up alot of height and defense.
     
  2. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    28,080
    Likes Received:
    8,577
    I agree, this move will definitely compromise our winning. In fact even lessen our winning. Lee does not equal Ariza!!!
     
  3. BigBenito

    BigBenito Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2002
    Messages:
    7,355
    Likes Received:
    175
    I trust in Morey. We have no idea what has been happening behind the scenes.
     
  4. Htown's2kFinest

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Messages:
    2,902
    Likes Received:
    98
    wow a salary dump... Thought Les was willing to pay the tax...

    Ariza overall is a better player than Lee. This sucks.
     
  5. Asian Sensation

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 1999
    Messages:
    17,940
    Likes Received:
    6,954
    Didin't read through all the posts and I'm sure some of these have been mentioned but the trade definitely makes sense.

    1) Money, money, money. Courtney Lee is on the last year of his rookie contract. Although Ariza makes around FMV this is a good salary dump.

    2) Glut at the SF position. Battier/Ariza/C-Bud are all traditional 3's. They can play spot minutes at the 2 but they're not quick enough to hang with other 2's on a regular basis.

    3) Our backup 2 guard as is is Jermaine Taylor. Need I say more?

    4) Morey probably has a backup plan with a trade for Jeffries, JT and maybe one of our young 4's in the works.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,291
    Likes Received:
    33,168
    Deal is done....according to tweets......

    Trade call with league HQ going on right now.

    WOOOHOOO !!

    DD
     
  7. ShiniKashi

    ShiniKashi Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2008
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    219
    Courtney Lee can ball and create his own shot...
     
  8. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1999
    Messages:
    39,003
    Likes Received:
    3,637
    Again, this is a simple case of people overvaluing Trevor Ariza. I never really liked his attitude, and he was a trainwreck with the basketball in his hands.


    Courtney Lee is a nice player, and now we get to see more of Chase, plus we save money.


    This deal has Morey written all over it.


    Just as I fully supported the Rafer for Lowry trade, I welcome this one.
     
  9. Hayden_SFC

    Hayden_SFC Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    2,365
    Likes Received:
    41
    BSPN just moved us from 8th to 9th. :grin:
     
  10. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    13,728
    Likes Received:
    14,869
    I think Ariza is an all-around better player. He does all of the little things and he's certainly a better defender, which is what we badly need right now. I really think he's coming into his own. He really fills out a stat sheet in a way very few players can.

    That said, having Battier and Ariza is a bit redundant, and CBud needs more minutes to develop. Lee is a great young talent (starting quality 2) who will be cheap for the next two years. With the uncertainty of Yao, the possibility of having to pay Brooks next season, and the emergence of CBud, this trade makes a lot of sense for Houston, both from a business perspective and talent perspective.

    KMart has a history of injuries, so we really needed to shore up the 2 spot (especially because Lowry is incapable of playing the 2, and Brooks is way undersized at the 2). If Yao gets hurt again and we really have to go in another direction, I guarantee you we'll be much happier with Lee than being tethered to the Ariza contract. It also makes KMart tradable if we have to do more rebuilding.

    I don't think this hurts us much for this coming season (doesn't help us either), but it will make us better over the next few years. I'd be happy if this went down.
     
  11. RV6

    RV6 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
    Well i expected ariza's value to be higher to other teams, but considering his value to us has diminished and it's mostly about money, then i can't complain much about this trade. Lee could start on most teams, he's definitely a nice player to have.
     
  12. Rookie34

    Rookie34 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,820
    Likes Received:
    51
    This makes a lot of sense! I wouldn't mind trading Ariza and I think Lee gives us more depth at the SG ... all we have left of 'natural' SG is Taylor, the guy isn't ready yet and I doubt he ever will!

    DM is gooooood, dumping salary and adding a young, nice defensive minded SG that has a lot of potential! I like the trade for us, but I don't get the Hornets ... giving away Collison like that? Do they really think Paul stays with adding Ariza and dumping Collison? I don't get it at all, unless draft picks are involved.
     
  13. Rockets4279

    Rockets4279 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2007
    Messages:
    2,208
    Likes Received:
    14
    This was a good move Lee still has upside.
     
  14. tmoney1101

    tmoney1101 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2009
    Messages:
    17,473
    Likes Received:
    21,823
    I don't think Solomon gets up till' about 2.
     
  15. tierre_brown

    tierre_brown Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Messages:
    2,983
    Likes Received:
    67
    On another note: Indy comes out as winners in this trade, getting Collison as their long-awaited franchise PG after failures with TJ Ford, Earl Watson, Jamaal Tinsley, etc...gave up Murphy, but with Granger, Hibbert, Hansborough, I guess they figure they'll be ok.
     
  16. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2008
    Messages:
    13,553
    Likes Received:
    5,498
    http://es.pn/9kxM7n
     
  17. RocketDonut

    RocketDonut Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Messages:
    698
    Likes Received:
    98
    Silly DD, of course it wasn't. The Houston Press is released once a week on Thursday. ;)
     
  18. sew

    sew Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    3,406
    Likes Received:
    228
    **** yes.

    Cbud for most improved 2010-11.

    Ya'll know Morey likes his players to be efficient. Ariza just wasn't working.
     
  19. jump shooter

    jump shooter Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2000
    Messages:
    5,429
    Likes Received:
    145
    This deal has Money written all over it. :grin:
     
  20. bigbodymoe

    bigbodymoe Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2002
    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    117
    There's another trade coming, I can tell you that right now. This deal was only a setup for something else going down. Morey's pattern to date tells me that.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now