[Chad Ford Insider] Hou working on 4 team deal [Update: Done Deal - Ariza for C Lee]

more concrete than a .3 and .4 difference in made shots and attempted. his efficieny is significantly different based purely on percentages, but in reality its not, as in the true makes/attempts per game hardly changed. It would be pretty easy for him get it back up to 40%.

And by "majority" of his career we're talking 12 games, not 120. It's the majority technically, because there's such a small sample, but it's not enough to say he's closer to being a 33% shooter than a 40%. Think about, 12 games into this upcoming season your point could become completely invalid.

 

lol I'm only on about page 3 and you've already posted things similar to this about 7 times. Do you really think our hopes are tied to Ariza?

Given the money this saves us and a little bit of potential in Lee, I'm not sad to see Ariza go while we still have two good options at SF.

 

I'm not too clear on it myself, but I think its something to help make salaries match. (i.e. trading draft picks for a player)

Maybe we'll use it to net our superstar?

 

Plus I was around for a couple of years without joining, then something happened that made me want to post.

I'll give you that the PRO-Artest voices were very vocal and very enthusiastic, but there were also a large number of ANTI-Artest people.

 

Probably true actually.

The only reason I felt obligated to say something is because that seemed to be somewhat of a "fan happy" trade, while nearly every other one under the Morey regime has been "WHAT THE HELL IS HE THINKING!?!?" That is why I just reserve judgment with every trade he makes now. Cause he rarely disappoints.

 

Let me put it this way. If yao played last year, then Bud would have played more, ariza would have had a lot less touches. He would have averaged 12 pts a game and everyone would seem this as an equal trade off of talent.

the only argument you can make here is that morey should have waited and found a taker who needed Ariza's 45 mins/game, 20 shots a game, and 20 pts a game, and therefore would have paid more for him, but given the luxury tax savings, the beginning to the season coming up, and this deal not likely to be available later (since Indy is desperate for a PG), then that was the best timing to get the most out of it (basketball-wise and money-wise).

Battier is still too important to not get at least 20 mins a game and bud has improved too much to not get 20 as well. Bud has the higher upside and a currently a smaller contract. Battier is older, but you can get him a lot cheaper after this year, and as battier gets older, bud's minutes should increase, so it works out fine. Ariza would have been stuck with inconsistently less minutes, while still making 6 mill for a few more years.

 

It wont take 12 games though worth of minutes here because that time will signicantly be reduced from 33 minutes to 25 minutes a night or so behind Kevn Martin. Dragging out the games it takes to make up those minutes. Then you have to add the fact that naturally with a limited role of course his points will go down but his field goal percentages could go up taking only open shots when given the opportunity to be the scorer only if open unlike in New Jersey where like Ariza he was counted on to score. Which even inflates his stats a little presumably in points per game on a bad scoring team. So the good comes with the bad in those situational numbers here. The points per game are probably inflated making him not that great a scorer anyways.

 

i know david A knows more basketball than me.. but i dont see yao getting a raise from what he is currently making, if anything he takes a pay cut because even if he signs a deal similar to his last one.. salaries increase over the years so what he would make in the beg of his new deal would be less than what he was making at the end of this old deal .. I think if anything we will save some money when yao signs a new deal...brooks for sure we will have to pay more ..

 

AB, Lowry, KM and C. Lee! This back court is ridiculous! Awesome trade.

 

You could be looking at as low as 18 minutes a game for Lee. Martin needs some rest but is essential as your starter to get as many minutes as possible in order to win. New Jersey used him as a scoring guard and despite that only mustered up 12 points inefficiently on a team devoid of scoring. So yes his field goal percentage may go up. That doesn't mean he will score all that well with these numbers provided.

 

Good backup options, yes. Problem is I don't see either of them as legit NBA starters at the moment. Battier's offense has deteriorated to the point where he is no longer a good option. Budinger has not proven he deserves starter minutes and is weak on defense.

Basically we traded a legit NBA starter for a bench player without being able to effectively back-fill the starting position.

 

What about the ARiza angle in all this ... i mean he came to houston because he wanted to proove he could be THE guy .. on the current rocketss .. as far as starters were concerned .. he was def behind yao , martin and brooks and can we really say he would have gotten that many more touches than scola?? so maybe you have to configure the possibility of ariza being disgruntled as well

 

If I were a GM who made a lateral move for my team that saved us $10,000,000,
I might turn to you with an enigmatic smile.

Kids were getting a pool for Christmas this year.

 

Hopefully this will be the next move. It gets the Rockets under the salary cap and a draft pick can be thrown in to sweeten the deal for Philly

 

So Les saves some money...

OK...

What's next? There has to be a next, right?

 

Les only saves the stoopid money. That's great, but it doesn't mean go spend it again .

 

You spend to get back a ring. That is logic

 

David Aldridge reports that Toronto and Charlotte tried to get involved in this trade:

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/david_aldridge/08/11/trade/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

 

That's funny how it projects that both teams lose more games!! But yes I think Morey needs to go after Iggy, IMO that would make our team complete.

 

You guys do realize that this guy was the main piece in Orlando acquiring VC right?