[Chad Ford Insider] Hou working on 4 team deal [Update: Done Deal - Ariza for C Lee]

Rox now have amazing assets:

Brooks, Lowry, Martin, Hill, Budinger, Lee, Patterson, JJ expiring, Battier expiring, $6 trade exception.

You can score a superstar with some of that. You can clean $ of a teams books and give them multiple young cheap pieces.

 

good money move but no question in my mind Ariza is the better player...

o well I didn't like Ariza's contract anyways.

 

$28 million better?

 

First, you can't roll your eyes at someone after a ****ty response on your part.

Second, he didnt start for the whole year, it was 66 games. About 20 more than the year before, but it's not like he was a back up one whole year and then a starter the next.

third, look at his 3pt attempt made. It hardly even changed, so it's a very low sample size. It's like battier's stats. He can shoot a "poor" percetange by just missing one more shot a game and everyone will think he started bricking everything. The difference in Lee's makes was .3 and in attempts it was .4.

Fourth, the guys shoot well above 80% from the FT line. When that's the case with a perimter player, you can always give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume he's a solid shooter at least. Obviously they won't always be, but it's very likely. Now add actual evidence of 33% and 40% 3pt shooting and it's very safe to assume he's a solid shooter, period. Great? That's still debatable, but let's not act like he's going to be Rafer.

 

How was it sh@@@ it didnt call you any names. it just made a point which must have been right since you got so angry at it.

 

Solid shooter off the bench behind Martin you mean?

 

from david aldrige

HOUSTON: Keep it under your tax.

The Rockets went all out this summer to retain their assets, spending $47 million to keep starting power forward Luis Scola and matching Cleveland's $23.5 million offer sheet to Kyle Lowry, their third guard. And Houston also had to get insurance in case Yao Ming is slow to recover from his foot injury by giving $15 million to Brad Miller. That made them a big-time luxury tax payer now and the future was even bleaker for owner Leslie Alexander's wallet, with Yao and Aaron Brooks due large paydays in the next two years.

And GM Daryl Morey has been in cost-cutting mode ever since. He gave away center David Andersen to Toronto last month for a draft pick and now jettisons the remaining four years and $28 million of Ariza's contract to New Orleans. The Rockets are still over the luxury tax threshold for next season ($70.3 million), but not by nearly as much. Morey could get under if he wanted by dealing Shane Battier, entering the last year of his deal, for a pick. But Morey's stat-based love for Battier's all-around game has been well-documented. The Rockets, I'm told, are OK with paying some tax next season and thought Ariza's minutes would get cut next season with second-year forward Chase Budinger's emergence. And the Rockets have been after Lee, the rising third-year guard, ever since he came out of Western Kentucky in 2008. He will see plenty of time in the Rockets' guard rotation behind Kevin Martin or, perhaps, alongside him at times.

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/david_aldridge/08/11/trade/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

 

They experimented with Ariza and realized he wasn't what they were looking for and rather than keeping him they got rid of him early. And i think that Battier, Lowry and miller are more important to this team than Ariza. Even if Battier and his contract are being used to trade for someone better (remember its expiring this year).

But going back to ur original post, U think Rockets won't make the playoffs because we got rid of Ariza?????????

 

That's true. Like I said, they are compatible. Chase's rookie season is not much more impressive, if any at all, than Lee's. But mind you, Lee was a significant contributor on a contending team. Chase's team didn't even make the playoffs.

Chase makes Ariza expendable. Lee is here to backup Martin. I think Chase and Lee will both turn out to be important parts for this team.

 

You clearly were not posting here when we traded for Artest. Their was an unreal amount of support for that trade. You'd have to dig deep to find someone who opposed it.

 

see... this is why I like Daryl Morey.. he (or at least his crew of scouts) and I see eye to eye on valuable players

 

OBVIOUSLY ....you have no clue what your talking about.

Both trades seemed at first to be salary dumps...alston was our starter and had better numbers across the board...alston had 2 years 6 mil...lowery had 1 at 2 mil.....

This trade is the exact same except not only did we save more money as arizas contract is longer and the luxury tax would have cost us 10 mil not 6...we also got a valuable 6 mil trade exception.

As of right now it looks like we lost a starter with slightly better numbers for lee...but thats what we all thought with lowry>alston.

Two things daryl knew lowry would be better then alston and cheaper...and he knows lee will be as well.

Also he believes budinger is ready to take the role as main SF and eclipse arizas numbers the way BROOKS did alstons numbers...

its almost the exact same trade...just this one has more financial and trade flexibility benefits.

 

And I realize you've posted here longer than me and more than me, but seriously? There was almost NO ONE opposed to the trade for Artest.

 

I didnt see any angry smiley in my post...i dont need to be upset to call your post a bad one. You ranted for a paragraph and said something that needed a sentence at most and the point wasnt even that concrete.

and yes, a solid shooter off the bench behind martin. you say that like its a bad thing? Before we had a non shooting rookie with problems fitting into a complementary role who still had mental mistakes to cure, now it's the opposite.

 

How concrete does a post need to be about a player who has two years experience? His second year having the most minutes and it being the majority of his career? Thats pretty solid I think. As solid as it gets to being as truthiness as humanly possible that that makes up the majority of his career.

 

Fair enough. You can say all you want. One thing you cannot say is that Cbud's ballhandling is very good. Average at best. You could see that in the SL games. He was stripped off the ball easily.

 

Is that you Trevor Ariza?????? Get over it, New Orleans isn't that bad....

 

So, what's your prediction on which player they go after next? I'll try to see if there's a place where I can place a bet on such things.

 

I think this is a great move. Courtney Lee was the main piece in the Vince Carter trade, was thought to be an an up-n-comer after the 09 Finals. Ariza has hit his ceiling, Lee still has ways to go before reaching his potential. Great move, personnel wise, and financial wise. Morey at it again.

 

How can the Rockets use the six million trade exception they received in this trade? Can they make it part of a Godfather deal? I am still confused about how trade exceptions work.