[Chad Ford Insider] Hou working on 4 team deal [Update: Done Deal - Ariza for C Lee]

Would've liked this better if we could get T-Will as well.

 

Some of you are overthinking this trade. This wasn't a move to get better, it was a salary dump. We're gonna save $10 million this year and close to $30 million overall. Even ESPN.com is calling it a salary dump:

For the Rockets, the move is basically a large salary dump. This summer the Rockets spent a lot of cash signing Luis Scola, Kyle Lowry and Brad Miller to free agent contracts and their payroll ballooned. Before the trade, the team was bracing for a $8 million plus luxury tax hit. This deal saves them $28 million on the life of the contract and roughly $10 million (when you factor in luxury tax payments) this season.

 

So once again we will have to fill the void at starting SF.....unless you are assuming C-Bud is definitely going to start and defend like Ariza or Shane or magically AB/KM become defensive experts.

So in 1 year, we will require a new starting SF.....okay.......

 

And again on Kaman at 3:50ish.

 

ESPN writes from the shallow end of the gene pool.

There is more depth to this trade, but their readers would not be that interested in it.

DD

 

Good Post dingus.....the lack of basketball knowledge on this board is sometimes depressing. This isn't a bad trade....it's good in two major ways

1. Chase Bud is our future starting SF if anyone hasn't notice. A complete, gifted player that will only get better next season WITH MORE MINUTES. Something had to happen with 3 SF on this roster. Battier was coming off foot issues last season and didn't catch on until late, but he is STILL very valuable to what we do and stand for. He will start until Chase is ready or until Battier is traded. What ever comes first.

2. It saves Les money....10 million. It's a no brainer of a move if you get back a young player (Lee) that can DO THEY SAME things Ariza can do, but in another position we need depth in. Sorry, but Jermain Taylor is a black hole and we need to fill that position with IQ, youth and skill. Morey did it in one swoop and saved 10 milllion in the process! Are some of you kidding?? Why is it so hard to see this is a good trade?

 

Your turning into the Nets. I know you dont see what I am saying. All most you posters see is hail Morey and "in Morey we trust. Its like a cult. Weird obedient cult. I am not buying into every move unless its a positive move or the big moves start to appear that make us better. Every move that turns us int the worst in the league Sacramento Kings with Martin and worst in the league Nets with Lee is not the direction I like to go with the almost always injured Yao.

 

Well, if Shane does well, he may be kept, or Jeffries the same, or if Cbud improves as most 2nd year players do, he will be the starter.

I trust the organization and Adelman knew what they were doing, don't you?

DD

 

I wish it was T-Will instead

 

This is just a salary dump. At this stage of their career Ariza is clearly a better player than C.Lee.

 

Easy. Indiana.

 

You wont ever catch me praising another main and saying in another man I trust or hail to the another man unless he has the results first to make me respect him. Thats now how I operate. I operate off of results. Should Morey pull in Carmello, Paul, Iggy, or Granegr off of this move I will join in the chorus. If he keeps pulling the guys from the worst teams to buildaround the most chronically injured player in the league? You wont see me pumping some guys ego up for that unless it did win the Championship somehow. Ever.

 

...but we did get better too.

Lee is a pretty dynamic scorer and plays defense. Ariza's an overrated defender, really more of a gambler on d than anything, and he's horribly inefficient on offense. Lee can actually handle the ball.

 

Bad trade for Houston. Courtney Lee isn't that good. He brings nothing to the table that the Rockets don't already have. Ariza proved that he could contribute to a champion. What has Lee done?

 

IMO, Hornets got raped in this deal while the Pacers and Rockets came out as winners. NJ didn't improve much.

Hornets just gave up a cheap, but really talented possible point guard of the future just to salary dump Posey and get back a moderately cheaper player in Ariza. Also, Collison was insurance just in case CP3 got injured again.

My guess is that CP3 was jealous of Collison and during there meeting 2 weeks ago said ship him out or trade me ASAP.

Pacers got what they wanted in a point guard, and a good and cheap one I might add.

Rockets got back a great defensive minded and offensively gifted backup to Martin, who is the perfect insurance if Martin gets injured or traded. Also this frees up playing time for Budinger, who is better than Ariza.

This move though reeks of another, more major one. We are set at Powerfoward, both Guard positions, and Center as well. We just need to improve our small foward position.

I think we will move Battier for another young, but defensive minded small foward like Iguodala.

This is the type of deal I would like happen by the deadline or sooner.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=265487q

Jeffries + Hill + Battier + Taylor for Iguodala + Green

Brooks/Lowry/Green
Martin/Lee/Green
Igoudala/Budinger
Scola/Patterson/Hayes
Yao/Miller

 

****sigh****

If and when Chase gets 20+ mins a game, he will average 15+ 4 and 4 or around those numbers next season. The kid has something special and the rockets see that. Ariza was so overrated, his ball handling was terrible, shot selection was suspect. His defense was more gambling than anything and if I never see him at the free throw line in Red again, my life would be that much better.

 

Help Orlando get to the championship as a rookie?

 

He brings the Rockets a backup SG with NBA game, something they didn't already have.

Great post....don't know why so many fans are ignorant of that...

DD

 

One of the posters from RealGM stated the following :

"The reason Houston is doing this deal is because of some behind-the-scenes- "issues" with Ariza. There was a MAJOR incident recently between Ariza and another key player that really turned ugly. The coaching staff was very concerned about chemistry issues between the two players and so they began shopping Ariza for the last month and a half or so. Apparently, Ariza has a reputation for being a "loose cannon" to put it mildly (one of the reasons LAL didn't do more to retain him), and Houston wanted to dump him and get back the best value they could. Lee is a very nice player--hard nosed, tough, and athletic--and they are really happy if they get him. Lee will be a very solid addition for them and I think you will see him flourish in Adelman's system."

Not sure if this is the real reason for trading Ariza.

 

The fact that you say Courtney Lee isn't that good says enough about your basketball IQ. It's obvious that you haven't seen 2 games with Lee playing and you're here on this board typing this.... He IS a good young player and will grow each season; hell Lee was starting at the 2 spot as a rookie for Orlando when they lost to Kobe (ariza) and the Lakers. He started for a team that went to the finals his rookie year.....that doesn't tell you enough? That he MAY have something?