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[Bleacher Report] Biggest Red Flags for Projected 2021 NBA Draft Lottery Picks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by flamingdts, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't know about that, I think putting on a bit of muscle is considerably easier than gaining defensive instincts and learning to view the court better and increase your passing ability.

    I think Mobley has the most easily correctable hole...since there's only one of them and it's something that most players do naturally once getting in the league.

    I think Green will be just fine because his scoring will always be valuable even if he fails to develop the rest of his game, so I don't think the Rockets can really go wrong no matter which one they pick.
     
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  2. Russjr2

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    Exactly. Both guys would help us so whichever one the scouts and Stone wants, I am ok with. Im sure they will see things in private workouts and interviews that we will not see. I still lean towards Mobley though because of his unique size and ability.
     
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  3. Denovo

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    What do you mean Mobley has only one hole?

    mobley has no offensive game. He can’t shoot, has no post moves. He’s completely raw on the offensive end outside of passing and catching lobs. His mid range is decent but he’s easily The most raw player in the top 4.

    He also needs more than just a Bit of muscle. His 215lb frame will get eaten alive in the paint. He’ll get boxed out by guards. Bulking up takes years in the NBA. He’ll get outmuscled just like CWood.

    You also can’t teach physicality, he’s soft and will struggle greatly on the boards.

    Mobley is a Project
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Well, it's because he can shoot very well for a center, him not having a post game does not mean he has no offensive game. It's true that he's by far better on the defensive side of things, but when a center is a skilled passer who can catch lobs and shoot the ball.....I mean, that's a pretty awesome spot to start from.

    As to bulking up "taking years", DMo went from 222 to 260 in just over one year.....so, yeah.

    Also, raw power isn't his game, he's a finesse player, he uses leverage and positioning to make up for lack of muscle....plus playing next to Wood would ensure he doesn't have to take on the burden of being the only big guy on the court.

    If the kid bulks up and adds a post game, he's a perennial all star waiting to happen.
     
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    Thanks, excellent read.
     
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    30% from the college line on low volume isn’t shooting well. For any position.

    He has no face up game either. He has no moves and can’t create his own shot.

    not trying to waste a number 2 pick on a Clint Capela that can pass and handle a little bit.

    it’s easy to find a big to play defense and catch lobs.

    Mobley can’t just bulk sir he has to retain his mobility. If he adds a ton of weight quickly he will lose hella quickness and won’t be able to guard the perimeter. He has to add lean muscle, which takes much much longer.

    I agree he has allstar potential. I just think he has the most work to do to get there.
     
  7. D-rock

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    Green is also skinny like Mobley.

    Only 189 lbs.

    He is fearless but his lack of FTA are concerning.
     
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    And this is what sucks about the situation you face in today's NBA. The teams at the top of the drafting order are there because they are not good and need immediate help. Yet, thanks to the situation that now exists in college basketball, they are forced to choose young, underdeveloped players in the hope that they can/will/may become solid NBA caliber players. This helps to explain why you see the same teams continue to draft high year after year yet they never seen to get the talent to improve their situation.
     
  9. Russjr2

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    Uhhh what videos have you been watching of him? All the ones I see show him having the skill of putting the ball on the floor and attacking his defender laying it up or going to his jump hook over either shoulder. No he is not a outside shooter at this point, but you can clearly see his form and release are very good which shows the potential is clearly there. Clint NEVER showed any outside shooting potential, still doesn't. I think its easy to find a 6'6 scorer, not a 7ft long athlete. But hey, im not going to argue with you about it, just my opinion. We can all have one and it's ok.
     
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    I hope that will improve once he gains strength.
     
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    Couldn't be more wrong. Hype had nothing to do with it. He went first even though people knew there was a huge chance he would be injured his entire career.

    Anybody that laughs at the blazers can automatically be labeled a moron.
     
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  12. saleem

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    I'm still for Green, but there is no doubt Mobley has very good potential. If he was more aggressive on offense and physically stronger, then he probably would be the number 1 pick.
     
  13. Russjr2

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    Yep, and those two things seem easily fixable with working out, coaching, and becoming a pro. Having a multi-skilled big on your roster seems to be what everyone wants because it gives you options.
     
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    Those aren’t advanced moves at all. Especially against freshman and non nba bigs.

    We already have a 7ft long athlete that’s skilled as hell. He just needs a defensive specialist to help cover him. We can find that anywhere.

    I just prefer a dynamic back court over the twig towers line up.

    Not really arguing just enjoying healthy discussions
     
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  15. saleem

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    I respectfully disagree with you on that point.
    That aggression is innate. Look at Pat Bev or Steve Francis, they are/were aggressive rebounders despite giving up nearly a foot in height and 20-40 lbs in strength. Mobley has to prove me wrong, if he is picked at number 2. I have nothing against him or anyone else. I want to see a multiple future all star on the Houston Rockets.
     
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  16. Russjr2

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    You are correct, they are not advanced at this point, but they are something to build upon. Clint still doesnt have post moves and looks awkward around the basket if its not a lob or put back. I just like a big that can set a screen, roll and finish the lob, pick and pop for a mid range shot, pick and get the ball and attack off the dribble. SOOO many options there to put pressure on the defense. Potentially having two of them sounds enticing too me. I mean if Wood gets his strength up and works on his D, we could have two long guys patrolling the paint and who are able to switch on G/Fs. They are not big bangers but in today's NBA they dont have to be. We could always have one on the floor in rotation. There are always G/Fs that come along who have scoring prowess.. We could trade for a proven vet one in a year or two.

    Oh yeah, this just talk amongst fans. This will go on until the draft, and surely after the draft (like it does every year).
     
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    If he's hitting at a high efficiency then the shot selection is fine. It's like Olajuwon, the shots he took would be bad shots for most anyone else but they weren't for him.
     
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    Ok, so if you want a junkyard dawg mentality then ok I see, but he doesn't have to be that far right. He just needs to be competitive and willing to work. Mobley is more of a finesse player so you are probably not going to get that mean guy, but that doesn't mean he cant be an effective big.
     
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    FWIW, Clint Capela would easily go top 5 in a re draft. A Clint Capela with some touch and finesse is easily worth the 2nd pick considering the league's history with #2 overall picks.
     
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  20. Denovo

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    I respect the vision. Summer league might change my mind on Mobley if we draft him.

    I just hope our next Franchise player, regardless of position, has killer instinct and steps up in big time playoff moments.

    It’s a slap in the face to watch all these young guards go crazy in the playoffs after watching Harden and Tmac **** themselves for years.
     
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