AI for Battier, Alston and expiring contracts trade rumors

BAD trade. we lose 2 of our good defenders for a guy who can't guard anybody although he can fill up the boxscore. but you don't beat anyone outscoring people or else the nuggets would have gone far.

and who will be our 3 man? put in donte right away? move tmac there and put head in and have 2 midgets in the backcourt?

 

Have you heard the rumor, that we are all laughing at you. Not just for your incredibly r****ded source, but for the fact that you alone thought this crap deserved its own thread after being mentioned on several pages here:
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=151214&page=17&pp=20

Brainiac you are not. Don't rough up the rookies for follwing the guidelines better than a 6 yr. member. Good thing u tipped the jar. Why don't you throw another $20 in there for acting like you overheard important news from a caller on your trip to the local Wal-Mart. Sports radio has guys calling in all kinds of crap.

Iverson is not needed on this team. We DO need a third scorer, but someone with a little more size and more of a team game would help.

 

I actually like this trade. We'll have three superstars, and AI has the killer instinct we need.

The chances of it happening: slim to none.

 

I know, thats why its so hard to believe. Although I did do some research on the guy that posted the rumor, and by research I mean reading his previous post. He seemed like a legit poster (made a thread about his wife recently diagnosed with cancer). Did not seem like a troll or somebody looking for attention.

The worst that can happen is that his source heard a false rumor. I don't think he made up this trade out of the blue just for fun. Somebody looking to do that would have reported it on one of the more popular forums.

 

NO NO NO NO. AI can't run this offense, plus we lose a crap load of defense. And AI's shooting makes T-Mac look Reggie Miller.

 

Am very skeptical of this.

Firsly, there's the fact that we're gutting 2/5 of our starting line-up to get a tiny shooting guard that's over 30.

Then, coupled with the fact that our team defense will suffer due to the loss of Battier and arguably Alston's on-ball defense, which AI's ball-hawking won't particularly make up for. Plus, we lose 2 legit 3-point threats.

On offense, we might get better, but we might also bomb. Remember, both Tmac and AI work best with the ball in their hands. This isn't like Boston with Ray Allen having a good catch-and-shoot game coming off screens, nor LA with Lamar Odom thriving on cherry-picks on the weakside off the defensive attention that Gasol and Bryant get.

Then, there's the issue of who sacrifices his game more? Do you take the ball out of AI's hands and force him into a Rafer-type role where he is a poorer 3-point shooter? Do you take the ball out of Tmac's hands and make him into a Ray Allen type role while having AI do all the creating?

And what about Yao? Between Mac and AI, that's arguably 40+ shots from the perimeter. Will he even get 12 shots, let alone be able to maximise his walking mismatch offensive potential?

Too many questions and not enough clear answers, that's grounds for passing up this trade. I pray it won't happen.

 

YES! I will take AI right away!

 

wow... totally agree with you!!

 

and next season, Yao 10-15 attempts per game, T-Mac 15-20 attepmts per game, AI 10-15 attempts per game, the rest of the team 10-15 attempts per game. This might work out fine

 

I bet a lot of people would have liked this to have its own thread. Me included. If this has any kind of backbone, it is a big deal. It's the offseason and a hot topic.

Calm down with all the cynicism. Just because you paint your face and act crazy at games doesn't make your opinion more valid than the rest of us.

This just seemed completely unprovoked and unesscessary.

 

Are you sure about that? AI shot 44-45% his past three seasons. That is a higher FG% that any of T-Mac's years with Houston. For their careers, AI is shooting 42% and T-Mac 43%. Hardly making T-Mac look like Reggie Miller.

 

OMG.. LMAO... are you fxxkig kidding me?? rafel better than AI??

 

i would trade Tmac for A.I

So if this happens ill go crazy.

 

what's Boston's starting five?

Big 3 + 2 very very young players.

 

Very arguable.

Did you see Alston trying to stop Deron Williams down the stretch of playoff games? He got totally abused. Have you ever watched Alston try to defend pick and rolls? Not pretty.

I'm not saying that Iverson could do any better but I wouldn't tout Alston's one-on-one defense. If anything, Alston is a good team defender.

I wouldn't worry at all about losing Alston. Battier, on the other hand, is a legitimate concern.

If the trade that has been tossed around is available, I'd do it in a heartbeat. The part I don't understand is how this would signficantly help Denver salary-wise. They save a couple million this season but Alston and Battier have 2 and 3 years left on their contracts, respectively. This makes no sense for Denver.

If they do want to trade Iverson, I think they can do much better than a package centered around Rafer Alston and Shane Battier.

 

For YEARS we have been complaining about how this team doesn't have a 3rd scorer.

Any now we have people complaining about adding a LEGIT 3rd scorer who has an expiring contract (flexibility) and in this scenario you would give up Battier and Alston?

Maybe we should bang our head against the wall a few more times.

 

Cmon... i think some of you guys are severely underrating AI. In Denver no one could play defense so of course he looked bad. He's obviously no Battier on defense but you can't say he's like Nash were he just lets his guy right by him all the time.

Our we would have the best 3 man combination in the league. You couldn't front Yao any more because that means all AI has to do is beat his guy off the dribble and you either have Yao 1 on 1 deep in the post or Scola/Landry right under the basket or Tmac wide open on the other wing or AI gets a free lane to the basket.

Plus, when AIs contract runs out next season, we would get him for a nice salary. Considering his age, he would probably sign for maybe a little more than the MLE.

 

Haven't heard this one around before, but I would be pretty excited as well if AI came to Houston. It would also be a huge gamble, and like many are saying, we would lose 2 of our best defenders and have a hole to fill at the 3. Francis would have to come back quick, but then again, I don't know how much of this is even true....

 

Yes, Deron Williams abuses Rafer on defense, but then again, who doesn't he abuse on defense?

For the most part, Alston plays within himself on defense and stays with his man. It's not his fault that a big 6'3"/6'4" guard can push him around. There are not many PGs with Williams' combination of size and a power game anyway. Against your more traditionally-sized PGs, Alston is solid if anything.

I do agree that Denver could do better than an Alston-Battier combo if they're trying to dump salary, which is part of the reason why I'm skeptical that this trade will go through. Although they might want to solve their PG problems and add a capable defender to at least hold down the fort while they rebuild around Carmelo (again...).

I want this team to have that 3rd option like most elite teams do nowadays. I just think that AI is not a particularly good fit for the team, and creates more holes in the starting line-up than he fixes.

 

Whats new in GARM, theres always someone that has to make themself feel better by attacking another person.