Sources: Morey wanted Dragic over Lin, Les forced him to get Lin.

Yea, I think the player option is an excuse Morey uses to hide the fact that Les made him go after Lin.

Even if you listen to the old interviews when they first signed Lin you will hear how Morey said Les was so mad at him over letting Lin go when Lin got hot in NYC. He even said Les called him one night and said something like "Do you see what Lin is doing" and hung up on him.

Plus if you look at Morey's history _ he probably would have just brought over Beverley and some other guy we never heard of or that was hidden on another team's bench before he would have went after Lin on his own accord.

 

If there are 2 balls then yes, Dragic would be an improvement over Lin.

Since there's only 1 ball, it doesn't matter if you have:
- Tiny Archibald
- Allen Iverson
- Steve Nash
- Magic Johnson
- John Stockton
- Chris Paul

in their prime... tell them to stand in corner/ outside 3 point line, tell them to watch Harden dribble, shake and bake the whole game, and get the leftover of 3 sec left on shotclock to shoot...

Do it 1 game, repeat 82 games + playoffs every year.

Over 2 seasons, any player's confidence would wear off.


Basketball is a confidence game. You restrict a player's natural game, telling him "don't"s or hit the bench, you will start questioning yourself.

But... they're Magic, AI, Nash, CP3, they wouldn't be asked to stand in corner or outside 3 pt line. Well then give them the ball and you'd see Harden's game in turn be sacrificed.

To be who he is, Harden needs the ball, he needs to be BOTH the PG and SG, leaving the real PG on the team who's playing with him without a role.


Like I said, if you use 2 balls on the court, then both Harden and the PG can be effective.


But long after Lin's gone, it doesn't matter what superstar PG you put alongside Harden... Rondo, Rose, CP3, Curry,... Dragic... either their game is sacrificed or Harden's.

So long as Harden's on the roster, the Rockets' PG will always be mediocre.


Unless.... Harden changes his game and plays off the ball like he did mostly when he was on OKC Thunder.

 

how am i clueless im making up numbers now homeboy ? and yeah he had ankle problems, hes not the only nba player that played not 100% and are doing it now in the playoffs. Dragic can do wrong its ok bro

 

I'm pretty sure you are over-dramatizing this. Morey said he called him about it, but more than likely it was more like your buddy calling you when your fantasy team is kicking his fantasy teams' butt.

Look, Les extended him last year, and laughed about it saying he's not going anywhere. Those two guys see eye to eye and seem to get along really well.

If I had to guess-

Dragic negotiations-

-I'd say that without Les' input, Morey still wouldn't have resigned Dragic due to the fact that his job was on the line if he didn't trade for a high impact player, and needed as many trade assets in his quiver as he could get, and any contract with a player option at that time was considered a potentially bad asset. That's more of Morey's thinking than Les'.

and

Lin negotiations-

-I could still see Morey offering Lin & Asik the poison pill contracts, However I could see Morey NOT upping the amount on Lin's offer sheet when they found out the Knicks were going to match. It doesn't seem very much like Morey to pay OVER market value. My opinion here is that Les & McHale probably were the ones to pressure Morey into boosting that offer over market value.

The initial offer sheet was for 3 years 19 million with a team option in year 4 I believe. That offer sheet sounds much more Moreyesque than the 3 year 25 million dollar contract.

My guess is Lin's agent told Morey & Les that the Knicks were going to accept that contract, and Les & McHale panicked and told Morey that we need to offer more to get him, and Morey told them "Ok, I have an idea how you guys can get Lin, and have it not kill my cap flexibility".... enter the poison pill.

Les got someone to put on the banners in front of the TC, McHale got a PG, and Morey got to keep some sort of flexibility. Everyone got what they wanted somewhat.

 

Key words :Morey's people


I don't doubt they said it, but a it's a biased source, so I can't take this too seriously.

 

Well, you conveniently left that out in the original post and mentioned his sitting out the last game as some kind of failure on his behalf.

He had chronic ankle problems. He sprained that ankle five or six times during the season, but never had time to recuperate properly, because he was to vital for the teams success. Much like with the Rockets he strapped that team on his back and carried it until his health gave out and he couldn't do it anymore. I can't really blame him for that.

 

lol

honestly tough, even if we had Dragic, would we be winning? Would he be starting over Beverly at this point? And if he was, then who the heck is playing defense? Beverly is a good fit for the current starters, Dragic isn't

 

Dragic is a good defender... don't be an idiot. Of course he would start over Beverley, and we would probably be playing the Grizz or the Mavs instead of Portland because we would be one of the top 2 seeds in the West. So yeah we'd be winning.

 

And the haters will continue to ignore the fact that Lin gave us our big leads in Games 2, 3, and 4. Then McHale would yank him and our mighty starters would fritter away the lead while Jeremy was sitting.

 

If we had Rondo, Rondo would be starting and Bev would be backing him up. Too bad you guys didn't want to lose your non defense playing pretty boy SF.

 

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He has some sources, but still bad timing right after a controversial playoff game.

 

If we continue to interpret cyberx as an official unofficial leak (and I just kinda assume from Morey himself with cyberx having received implicit or explicit permission to leak the info), Morey is just covering his ass and (presumably correctly, for you could not do otherwise to the owner and your boss) shifting the blame for playoff loss onto Les.

The previous post I interpreted as, "McHale's gotta go". (Or maybe for next year have far stronger "assistant" coaches.)

This one, it's like (in speaking to Les), "Lin's on you."

 

This is BS. Whoever is implying this is trying to save face for Daryl Morey. Morey signed Lin because he wanted a selection of international talent. He also saw the marketing $$$ Lin would bring. This was NOT a basketball move and backfired in the organization's face. How about you get the best player available instead of trying to get marketing $$$ Morey? This Lin signing has cost us SO MUCH, smfh

 

Like Tori Spelling on 90210

 

-International talent???... what are you talking about. The Rockets have long sense had some of the best international talent to ever walk the face of the earth. Ever heard of Hakeem Olajuwon? Yao Ming?

-Marketing $$- So Morey cares about marketing $'s more than Les? Also don't get us started on the whole "Asian marketing BS". There is this thing called revenue sharing that mitigates this notion.

There is no doubt in my mind that Les pushed Morey to get Lin, and spend slightly more than he wanted, but that doesn't mean that Morey didn't want him in the first place, and didn't like him as a player. Do you think Les was the one that picked up Lin for a training camp spot before they cut him, or even knew who he was back then? Also like I said before, nobody has supported Lin publicly and backed his play with stats to support him more than Morey.

-The Lin signing has cost the Rockets what exactly? They let Dragic go before they pursued Lin. Dragic was gone either way. What great PG could the Rockets have had if Lin simply wasn't on the roster, and how would they have gotten him?

Lin has cost the Rockets games, but its ignorant to think that he hasn't contributed to wins at the same time. Maybe he's added more negative than positive, but he's still a contributing member of the Houston Rockets which is more than you can say about the likes of Gilbert Arenas to the Orlando Magic, Beidrins to the Utah Jazz, or even Amare (the past two years) for the Knicks.

If a free agent PG, or a PG that needs to be moved cannot be move to Houston because of Lin's contract ALONE than come talk. As of now, it is what it is. He's going to be gone before we all know it, and if THIS is the worst contract Morey ever signs than we are in good hands.

 

bad timing...

 

Btw, Morey does have a public reputation to protect.

One of the things I noticed is how Morey, over the years, has very deliberately burnished the salary he could command on the market. It's one of the reasons he hasn't been a quietly effective "organization man". This is kinda standard practice among professionals, anyhow.

Thus, assigning blame for a possible 1st round exit to McHale previously, and Les/Lin in this case. (And again, probably correctly.)

So, now he's just gotta fix these two areas in the off-season...

 

Dragic is a good defender?

 

I never thought Lin was such a terrible contract. It was a relatively minor gamble in a rebuilding year. And only for 3 years. Nothing like those huge 5 or 6 years contracts, or the undying ARod or Pujols contracts in baseball.

Lin's contract is only an error if you're trying to win now. Otherwise, he's been good entertainment, in both a good and bad way.

 

We have currently stockpiled a crapload of International players. Daryl Morey loves foreign players and takes pride in finding guys nobody knew of. Don't act like this isn't a well known fact around the league about Morey. Blaming Les for Morey giving Lin that contract, who EVERYBODY in they right mind knew was atrocious, has set this organization back. It was ALL for Marketing. Jeremy Lin was hyped up by the media and Morey fell for it. He's the GM, all the blame belongs on him. Period

The Lin contract has cost us being he's making 15M's next year, and that 15M should be going to a selection of role players who could actually contribute in the playoffs. We're handicapped by that contract that NOBODY wants.

As far as Lin costing us games, yes he's trash. Those few hustle plays can't make up for the r****d turnovers and idiotic fouls he's hurt us with late in games recently. Asik's due for a bonus next year and he's currently getting outplayed by Robin Lopez!!! Omer is getting starting $$$ but getting azz handed to him right now. Bottom line, Morey has PLENTY of mistakes that he's made.