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will yao's physical fatigue cost in the playoffs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wingcommander87, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. wingcommander87

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    Ever since the recent Utah loss, yao is getting more and more tired at the end of games. In Utah, it was our guards pushing the pace and yao was unable to run with them. I thought that was an aberration and those kind of things would not happen again. But i was wrong, it did happen and it happened in phoenix. shaq played yao physical in the 4qtr and our offense came to a predictable halt. I kinda expected that but the thing i did not expect was the lazy pass to brooks which nash easily stole and "whole hands to the knees gasping for breath" routine during free throws. These things has me worried about this team in the playoffs.

    People are rationalizing the Phoenix loss by saying, they wanted it more and the game was not as important to us as it was for phoenix cause their season is on the line. But don't teams in the playoffs play as if their season was on the line. If shaq and suns can get yao tired easily in just one playoff like game think what teams would do to yao after playing potentially seven of them.
     
  2. Aznoob

    Aznoob Member

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    You do realize Phoenix plays run 'n' gun offense, right? Yao can keep up with Shaq, easily. He can't keep up with PHX offense.

    If we play the Spurs, they'll be right with us, tempo-wise.
     
  3. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    Yao usually gets tired playing against Shaq. He was matching up with him for around 35 minutes yesterday. There aren't many players in the league that can do that and not get really tired by the end of it.
     
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    pheonix's offense is too fast
     
  5. SugarLandDream8

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    Not positive but I believe in the POs there are more tv timeouts.
     
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    yaos fatigue always costs the rockets. it's part of the package and you, or the rockets organization, cant gonna change it
     
  7. Dave_78

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    Playing Shaq one on one for 30+ minutes is going to fatigue anyone. I think Yao is going to be just fine. His minutes have been lower this season and he has a full season under his belt so his conditioning is probably as good as it has ever been.

    If you want to worry about Yao hurting us in the playoffs I would be more concerned with the fronting defenses and Yao's bad hands.
     
  8. wingcommander87

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    I am not talking about opposing team offense causing yao's fatigue. all i am saying is that yao for reasons unknown is becoming easily tired in the 4 qtr. The two most recent games i have seen this is the one in utah and the one in phoenix both were losses. so are u also saying utah plays run 'n' gun? Cause I don't think utah plays "run 'n' gun offense.
     
  9. TMac4Life#1

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    Yao guarded Shaq last night and add a run n gun style offense. That is going to take ALOT out of anyone. Not just because it was Yao but any one really. Yao's body frame compared to Shaq's is going to make Yao drain fast. Mind me Rick Aldeman should have known about this and put Deke in sooner than later. But Nooooo he is in love with his starters and he his going to wear them out.

    Come playoff time everyone is basically going 2 be tired. Well Yao is. Lord help us if we are matched up with a team with an athletic front court. It is going to be a day in hell for Yao :(
     
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    At the start of the third he looked fresh and went on to score 3 or 4 baskets in a row. Then they went away from him because Rockets are that dumb. Anyway I am pretty sure he played all if not most of the 3rd. Then he started the 4th and when they tried to go to him he was to tired to do anything. Adelman has to rest Yao more in the third so he can have more energy in 4th.

    Of course if you add in the fact they played the Suns who run and have Shaq, Yao is gonna be even more tired.
     
  11. Depressio

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    For reasons unknown, huh? Running back and forth for 30+ minutes while guarding a 7'1", 300+ pound man shouldn't make him tired, so the reasons reamin unknown.
     
  12. wingcommander87

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    This was the stat line when houston beat phoenix in houston.

    Minutes
    Y. Ming C 41:34 15pts/13rbs/6assists
    S. O'Neal C 36:30 17pts/5rbs/2assists

    I don't remeber yao being tired in that game. Do you?
     
  13. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Like has already been pointed out, Yao gets the most tired against teams that have fast offenses, or games that have degenerated into sprinting matches. I know, crazy, huh.
     
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    Its not his fatigue that will cost him, its his b****ness that will cost him. He almost gets dunked on by shaq and he smiles?? WTF!!. Man up man, go back at him. Than he was scared the whole game after that. Damn it Yao MAN THE **** UP!!


    That is all.
     
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    Our pgs have to be smart about controlling the pace of the game. That means Brooks has to stop running the ball up the court and walk it up instead. Teams that can successfully trick us into playing a running game will beat us 10/10, Yao simply doesn't have the stamina for it, nor does he fit into a fast paced offense.
     
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    In the game against Utah and Suns, there were times that the PGs lost control and ran way too fast, even though there were no fast break opportunites availlabe.

    Opponents try to run Yao is by design our guards try to run him is suicide.
     
  17. MandM's

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    it is coach management of minutes.

    have to find places to rest him. there has never been a man his size to play those minutes. never

    i think he is incredible to do what he does. the fact that he can play 40 plus minutes with his height and weight. it just isn't something that is supposed to happen.

    it has amazed me that the rockets have never provided him with a quality backup that can help him.

    doesn't make sence
     
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    Yao had both struggled and dominated versus the fast offenses throughout his career. I don't think there is any consistent rule of thumb here.
     
  19. esteban

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    Yao's fatigue has a lot to do with the ineptitude of our guards. You don't ever try to speed up the tempo to match Phoenix, that is suicidal! We have Yao, our ultimate weapon on offense, learn to use him properly, maximize his time when he's playing.

    I'd rather have Yao playing between 30-35 mins a game but when he's on the court, the offense must run through him on every possesion. I don't ever want to see Yao dragging his big body up and down the court for long stretches and being ignored on offense.

    I can almost guarrantee you guys if we do this on a regular, consistent basis Yao won't get tired easily and we'll have more wins than losses.
     
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    Yao also played the majority of the 3rd quarter, which he usually doesnt
     

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