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Trump's postal service meddling

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  1. AleksandarN

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    Military next. Need to make it better and more efficient
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    All roads should be sold off and turned to toll roads.
     
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  3. AleksandarN

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    Totally. Need more efficient roads
     
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  4. Buck Turgidson

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    And I mean, who really needs the FAA and air traffic controllers? If your flight crashes, just don't fly that airline anymore. Free markets FTW.
     
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    The Democrat-led House approved a bill today that provides $25 billion to USPS and prohibits any operational changes prior to the election.

    According to this OAN political commentator, the Republican-led Senate will block the bill, and if they don’t, Trump will veto it.



    Anyone that still supports Donald Trump and his enablers within the Republican Party and plans on voting for him in November needs to open their eyes and get their head out of their ass. If they were planning on running a clean election, Republicans would have no reason to veto this bill. But, it’s blatantly obvious that is not the case.
     
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  6. No Worries

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    Public roads are socialism run wild.
     
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  7. SamFisher

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    Public roads? All roads. Each car should be responsible for its own road. Too often do parasite cars leech off the labor of graders and pavers.
     
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    "Oddly, The Democrats Didn’t Seem Too Interested In Helping The Post Office In 2015":

    https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-sh...dnt-seem-interested-helping-post-office-2015/

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    Let’s jump in the Way-Back Machine and see how Congress was handling this same situation back in October of 2015. Those were the heady days of Barack Obama’s presidency, as well as the period when Hillary Clinton was firing up her primary bid in the early states, widely expected to win the Democratic nomination and then go on to become the nation’s first female president. While it didn’t get nearly as much air time then, the USPS was already in dire straights. They’d lost money for nearly every year for the past half-decade. (Things did improve a bit in the following couple of years, though.) In fact, they were begging Congress for relief at the time.

    And how did our legislature respond? A proposal was put on the table by a bipartisan coalition including Elaine Kamarck, a former Clinton administration official, to break up the Post Office and sell off its package delivery services. Who was the Minority Leader in the House back then? That’s right. It was Nancy Pelosi. Harry Reid was in charge of the minority in the Senate, but Chuck Schumer was already one of the senior figures by that point and widely seen as Reid’s likely successor.

    The Washington Post published a couple of analysis pieces featuring a Brookings Institute study suggesting that this might be the only way to effectively deal with the Post Office’s financial woes. At the same time, what the Post Office was asking for was relief from a Congressional requirement that they set aside $5.5 billion a year to be put toward health care costs in the agency’s bloated retirement and pension plans. Without that requirement, they would have shown a profit during those same years. And what was the answer they received from Congress? Go pound sand.

    We were heading into a “critical” presidential election then also and there were certainly going to be the normal number of people requesting absentee ballots and voting by mail in the few states already using that system. Where was all of this concern for the vital nature of the Post Office and the danger any shortcomings could present to our most vulnerable citizens then? Nowhere to be seen. The Post Office has been in financial trouble for decades and the changes being scheduled by the Trump administration to address those shortcoming have been in the works for quite a while. But this is 2020, so everything has to be the center ring at the circus. . . .​
     
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    NSFW (language)


    Skip to 2:20 FTW.
     
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    It completely ignores the fact that we are in the worst pandemic this country has seen in over one hundred years. That makes this election nothing like 2016, except that the fellow in the White House is again getting help from Russia, which he is gleefully accepting. It also ignores the fact that the shill trump installed as head of the Postal Service has been actively dismantling key parts of that service in order to delay the mail. All to help Mr trump’s bid for reelection, not to “reform the Postal Service.”

    Meanwhile, that is delaying Social Security checks, rent and mortgage payments, medications, and a host of other things besides insuring chaos with the expected enormous increase of mail-in ballots due to that pandemic you may have heard of. All something you continue to ignore. I wonder why.

    What you quoted came from an aptly named source, Hot Air. At least you got that right.
     
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    Don’t you think Dem AND Rep (15 or so of them voted for the funding) would care IF there were changes that impact on time delivery and there were warning that it can’t handle mail-in ballot.

    What we have now is a national health crisis that cause volume to drastically drops earlier in the year, report of recent drastic changes that cause delay of essential such as medicine, and an actual notification of the USPS that they may not be able to handle mail-in ballots.

    when you think and take into account of the current circumstances vs 2015, you would easily understand how it’s an apple to oranges comparison - that to compare the two is a bunch of stinky HOTAIR :)
     
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    People not getting vital medications as a result of trump's effort to suppress voting...

     
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    They are fighting all over the world, why don't they send home some booty. making a profit from crusades is a time honored tradition.
     
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    I don't think that means what you think it means.gif
     
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    Courts stop trump's attempt to suppress votes by blocking dropboxes in PA...

     
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    Maybe trump simply ran out of people to speak at his convention? Half the keynotes are trumps, and more are members of his cabinet...

     
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  19. NewRoxFan

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    In other words, dejoy lied to Congress?

     
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