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The sleeper of the draft...

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by Glide#22, Jun 25, 2005.

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  1. Glide#22

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    ... could be... Rashad Mac Cants.
    The more the mocks drafts are going, and the more Mc Cants is slipping down.
    And he still could be available at the 24th spot and land to Houston, what would be a steal !!!
    Imagine our backcourt: Stoudamire (he could become our PG) - Mac Cants - Mac Grady.
    What do you think about that, assuming that it really become true in a few days.
    The Rockets could become de Double Mac Ming !!!

    We need a power forward, that's true but:
    - Can we pass on a player like Mc Cants if we can grab it ?
    - We can sign a PF in free agency, and we have Howard who is doing a good job.
     
  2. giddyup

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    Didn't McCants have poor workouts? I remember reading about a couple of them. Wasn't Joey Graham schooling him and he pulled a "No Mas"? Seems like I read about three such workouts.
     
  3. smoothie

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    graham is like 5 inches taller and the strongest player in the draft. it seems to be an unfair matchup IMO.

    with the right coach mccants will be a steat. no doubt. he has more talent than anyone in the draft outside of bogut, marvin, and the 3 PG's. he reminds me a lot of ben gordon mixed with mobley. he could end up being a force on offense.
     
  4. m_cable

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    It wasn't Graham that was "schooling" him, it was Hodge. And Mccants and/or his agent is playing some kind of game because he continually goes to workouts, gets measured, runs, jumps, and then pulls out when they start going head to head or two on two. Either he has some kind of promise, really does have a physical problem/sickness, or is a flake.
     
  5. giddyup

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    How many impactful 6'3" SGs are there in the NBA?
     
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    Julius Hodge
     
  7. roswell raygun

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    If by "sleeper" you mean the guy sleeping in the Green Room while everyone else up to the podium, I agree.
     
  8. Stack24

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    The last one that happened to was Rashard and he turne dout fine lol...even though i am not comparing the two.

    And didn't they get rid of the green room and have anyone that wants to attend up in the front now because of the whole incident with Rashard and it looked all bad lol...
     
  9. Clutch

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    It happened to Maciej Lampe in 2003 ... he was projected to be late lottery to the teens, and ended up sliding to the first pick in the second round. He hasn't really panned out yet though (already been with 3 teams in the Knicks, Suns and Hornets).
     
  10. LongTimeFan

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    McCants is such a mystery. One night he can look like an All-NBA defender and lock down Duke's JJ Reddick, and the next game he'll let a nobody light it up. I've watched every game of his for the past two years (with Roy coaching) and I can see he has improved on the team-game.

    Strengths:

    McCants is an unbelievable shooter. Unbelievable. His JR. year he showed signs of being a little streaky, but when he was left open it was almost automatic. He also has incredible range, think Tmac with 2 secs on shot clock range. You can tell the guy loves the game, he loves the crowd, and he loves all the jabbing that goes with it.

    Weakness:

    He could stand to work on his ball handling. He wasn't anything special, and though he won't be running any point, he'll still need to improve that area. He also is on the shorter end of SG's at 6'4" (? I think..). McCants recieved a lot of unfair criticism, which is what brought up a lot of the so-called "red flags".

    Overall:

    McCants loves the game and shows it. If he hits a big three, he'll do his infamous Wolfpack sign, or if he makes a big play he'll do the salute. Coach Roy didn't like this show boating so much, and it made the announcers think he was a bad kid, blah blah -- which isn't true. Obviously in the NBA, this goes on a lot, so he won't be so scrutinized. McCants is a quiet guy, don't expect him to be at the clubs with all his best friends from the team -- but he's also a firey guy when he steps onto the court. He has ice in his veins and loves to shoot the last shot. I could see Tmac driving and dishing to him for the three much like Raymond Felton did all those years at UNC.
     
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    McCants looks legitimate, reminds of Francis -- on so many levels.

    Garcia looked good, too.

    Granger, I think, will be the sleeper in the draft. It would be interesting to see a perimeter defense or transition game that involved McGrady and Granger.

    Kobe/Green/Odom vs. McGrady/Granger/???. That would be unbelievable.

    What are the expectations of Bogut? He reminds me of Sam Bowie. (Which means M. Williams would be...?)

    University (Dreamcasting) Blue
     
  12. micah1j

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    How can a guy projected to be top 10 be a sleeper? Most mocks have him going before pick #9.
     
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    Mccants is a bit undersized, but he's got long arms. And excellent lateral mobility. He has the tools to be a great defender. But does he have the consistent desire...
     
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    I think it will be Wayne Simien...the next Carlos Boozer.
     
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    i believe granger will be the star of this draft....and the reason why he is a sleeper is because people believe he does'nt have that much of an upside....though he is better at the moment than most players in this draft.... hopefully the raptors get him...or gerald green. :D
     
  16. Hakeem06

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    why would we want stoudemire 5'10 and McCants 6'3 as our backcourt? i don't think size is the end all but that would cause a ton of defensive matchup problems and well, mccants really isn't going to be much of a player at the next level. yeah he was a very good college scorer but you have to be able to do more at the next level to be successful. not interested in him.
     
  17. giddyup

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    What about Steve Graham?

    GRAHAM BROTHERS WORKOUT

    The workout featuring the Graham twins was much more competitive than most of the other workouts we saw over the course of the week. The Grahams started out with some ballhandling drills, and eventually moved into shooting drills. They started out inside the free-throw line and gradually worked their way out, shooting both set shots and off the dribble. The shooting made its way out to the three point line, where the results were mixed. Stevie shot 15 of 35, and while Joey started out on fire, he got a little tired and cooled off toward the end to shoot 20 of 35. Things got quite a bit more competitive from there. There were several different drills designed to show one-on-one play, one of which involved one player cutting to the wing, catching a pass, and attempting to score on the other. The full blown one-on-one drills were quite physical, with the twins playing to a virtual draw.

    The first thing that bystanders noticed walking by the MultiPlex gym in Chicago were two 6-7 twins built like NFL linebackers, who seemed to be playing the wrong sport. Once you saw them with the ball in their hands, one realized that the brothers were indeed involved in the right sport. In the aforementioned ballhandling drills, Joey showed a noticeable improvement in his dribbling ability from when he was at Oklahoma State. While he did not have quite the handle of his brother Stevie, he did a pretty good job in the cone drills in front of NBA scouts from four teams picking in the range in which he is projected on being picked. Joey still possesses the same low release point on his shot with little lift, but he made absolutely everything within 18 feet of the basket. As he stepped out to the collegiate three-point line and beyond, he continued to show the ability to knock it down, just not at the amazing clip in which he was netting his mid-range jumpers.

    Joey then had to knock down as many three-pointers as he could within a 90-second time frame from the top of the key. He started 15/20, but then seemed to tire and finished 20/33. The reason that Graham was not as prolific as the drill went on was his lack of legs in his jump shot, which virtually forces him to shoot the ball only with his arms. If he is able to consistently get more lift into his shot, Joey can develop into a threat from beyond the NBA three-point line as well this year.

    Next up was the one-on-one duel of the brothers, which actually resulted in a draw. Joey showed a really nice first step, ripped the ball through very quickly into his moves, and did an amazing job creating space on his step-back jump shot. It was clear to anyone in the gym that Graham will be able to step in and contribute to a team immediately as a power small forward in the Ron Artest mold with his chiseled physique, great defense, and emerging perimeter game.

    With that said, it was actually his brother Stevie who stole the show here. Numerous times we had to make sure that we weren't getting the twins confused, because Stevie was actually outplaying his brother for the first two thirds of the workout, and in times it wasn't even close. We weren't trying to look too hard or anything, but the huge letters in an Eastern Conference coach's scouting notebook basically told us all we needed to know: "STEVIE OR JOEY?" referring obviously to the question of which of the two is better.

    The rumblings coming from other teams in attendance told the same. It wasn't that Joey played badly, it was just that his brother was outstanding, surprising everyone in attendance. He showed a much better perimeter game and showed the ability to create his own shot and pull up from mid-range jumpers with ease. He has a certain smoothness to his game that will probably make his brother Joey an All-Star once he acquires some of the same. His physique is extremely impressive and his athleticism more than you can ask for. Even though Stevie didn't shoot the ball great in the 90-second shooting drills, he was excellent in the perimeter shooting department in almost every other part of the drill. After watching him play twice over the past week in workouts, it's time to go beyond what everyone else was saying in the gym about how in the world did he not get invited to Chicago and start thinking about the very real possibility of him getting drafted and making a team.
     
  18. saitou

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    I remember reading this article too, but then there's also KAS13's report of his workout in Houston which isn't so positive.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=96673
     
  19. giddyup

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    that Houston workout report is positively dismal. It will be interesting to see what eventuates...
     
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    Julius Hodge or Ike
     

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