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Alternate reason why we need to change coaches - we need to TANK next season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Marsarinian, Apr 18, 2011.

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  1. Marsarinian

    Marsarinian Contributing Member

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    Reason:

    The 2012 draft is LOADED.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/

    First Round
    1 Anthony Davis PF
    18 years old; 6'10"; 220 lbs.
    Kentucky, HS Senior
    2 Harrison Barnes SF
    18 years old; 6'8"; 210 lbs.
    North Carolina, Freshman
    3 Jared Sullinger PF
    19 years old; 6'8"; 250 lbs.
    Ohio State, Freshman
    4 Perry Jones PF
    19 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
    Baylor, Freshman
    5 Quincy Miller SF
    18 years old; 6'9"; 200 lbs.
    Westchester Academy, HS Senior
    6 James McAdoo PF
    18 years old; 6'8"; 216 lbs.
    , HS Senior
    7 Michael Gilchrist SF
    17 years old; 6'7"; 205 lbs.
    St. Patrick's, HS Senior
    8 Patric Young C
    19 years old; 6'9"; 220 lbs.
    Florida, Freshman
    9 Bradley Beal SG
    17 years old; 6'4"; 177 lbs.
    , HS Senior
    10 Austin Rivers SG
    18 years old; 6'4"; 195 lbs.
    , HS Senior
    11 John Henson PF
    20 years old; 6'10"; 200 lbs.
    North Carolina, Sophomore
    12 Adonis Thomas SF
    18 years old; 6'5"; 204 lbs.
    , HS Senior
    13 Myck Kabongo PG
    18 years old; 6'1"; 160 lbs.
    Findlay Prep, HS Senior
    14 Tyler Zeller PF/C
    21 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
    North Carolina, Junior
    15 Thomas Robinson PF
    20 years old; 6'8"; 220 lbs.
    Kansas, Sophomore
    16 Tristan Thompson PF
    20 years old; 6'8"; 235 lbs.
    Texas, Freshman
    17 Mason Plumlee PF
    21 years old; 6'11"; 210 lbs.
    Duke, Sophomore
    18 Lucas Nogueira C
    18 years old; 6'11"; 225 lbs.
    MMT Estudiantes, International
    19 Joshua Smith C
    18 years old; 6'9"; 280 lbs.
    UCLA, Freshman
    20 LeBryan Nash SF/PF
    19 years old; 6'7"; 220 lbs.
    , HS Senior
    21 Marquis Teague PG
    18 years old; 6'2"; 165 lbs.
    , HS Senior
    22 Evan Fournier SG/SF
    18 years old; 6'6"; 200 lbs.
    Poiters, International
    23 Mouphtaou Yarou PF/C
    20 years old; 6'9"; 230 lbs.
    Villanova, Sophomore
    24 Jeremy Lamb SG
    18 years old; 6'5"; 185 lbs.
    Connecticut, Freshman
    25 Davis Bertans SF
    18 years old; 6'10"; 210 lbs.
    Union Olimpija Ljubljana, International
    26 Festus Ezeli C
    21 years old; 6'11"; 255 lbs.
    Vanderbilt, Junior
    27 Augusto Cesar Lima PF
    19 years old; 6'10"; 235 lbs.
    CB Granada, International
    28 C.J. Leslie SF/PF
    19 years old; 6'8"; 205 lbs.
    N.C. State, Freshman
    29 Khris Middleton SF
    19 years old; 6'7"; 215 lbs.
    Texas A&M, Sophomore
    30 William Buford SG
    21 years old; 6'5"; 185 lbs.
    Ohio State, Junior

    :eek:

    And more top prospects might drop out of this year's draft for 2012. We have NYK's first, and our own first for 2012... We need to hit the lottery HARD.
     
    #1 Marsarinian, Apr 18, 2011
  2. Carl Herrera

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    #2 Carl Herrera, Apr 18, 2011
  3. LongTimeFan

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    I was going to start a thread on the exact same thing. If we want to rebuild like the Thunder, the 2012 draft is the place to do it. First, we need to fire Morey for trading our 2012 1st to NJ. :)
     
    #3 LongTimeFan, Apr 18, 2011
  4. RudyTBag

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    Unfortunately, we are just too good. Bernie Mac could coach and we would win 40 games.
     
    #4 RudyTBag, Apr 18, 2011
  5. LongTimeFan

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    Kind of minimalizing Adelman's impact, no? This team isn't that talented.
     
    #5 LongTimeFan, Apr 18, 2011
  6. RedDragon01

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    How is 'tanking' an alternate reason for changing coaches? It seems to me, based on forum conversation, that it's the only reason we'd change coaches, as we aren't going to find a better coach in the off-season than RA.

    And saying we 'need to tank' isn't going to make you many new Rockets friends. The last poll I can remember showed about 80% of forum users believed that making a decision to tank before a season even begins is a good way to ruin a franchise.

    There may be some very vocal users that are pro-tanking, but the vast majority of Rockets fans are quite the opposite.
     
    #6 RedDragon01, Apr 18, 2011
  7. TEXNIFICENT

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    Is it "tanking" or getting serious about rebuilding?
     
    #7 TEXNIFICENT, Apr 18, 2011
  8. Marsarinian

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    Personally, I've never been a really pro-tanking person. The decision to tank or not really depends on the draft though - you don't tank if there's no Tim Duncan or LeBron James up there. Tanking for the 2000 draft and tanking for the 2003 draft is REALLY different.
     
    #8 Marsarinian, Apr 18, 2011
  9. RudyTBag

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    I think highly of our players, you could say.


    I think we are pretty dang talented. Talented enough to shoot for the 7th-8th seed every single year, with or without Adelman.
     
    #9 RudyTBag, Apr 18, 2011
  10. gah

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    Go ahead and tank, an early first rounder is worth it in such a deep draft.

    Most stupid thread thread is most stupid.
     
    #10 gah, Apr 18, 2011
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    *gah, an early second rounder.
     
    #11 gah, Apr 18, 2011
  12. LongTimeFan

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    Our 2012 1st rounder is lottery protected, so if we miss the playoffs again (probable) we get our 1st rounder back. We'll also receives NY's 1st rounder to use in trades.

    If I'm Morey, I'm trying to get as many 2012 1st rounders as I can. The Terrence Williams trade really stings right now..
     
    #12 LongTimeFan, Apr 18, 2011
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  13. RedDragon01

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    That's a very valid point. There are some drafts that are worth tanking for. And then there are most drafts in which tanking is a too risky gamble.

    If we do change coaches this off-season, my guess is that Les and Morey are going to hire a young unproven coach on a 2-3 year contract, just long enough to either develop the coach and players and be ready to resign a more experienced gem of a coach when we're ready to compete again, or (the more likely scenario) to develop the players and then replace the lemon of a coach when we're ready to win again.

    I can't say that I'm 100% for increasing losses next season or 100% against it. If we were to strategically rebuild next season, then it's a great season in which to do it.

    But as a Rockets fan, I will never enjoy watching a losing team, even if I know it's for a greater good years down the road.
     
    #13 RedDragon01, Apr 18, 2011
  14. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Tank, no. Head in a new direction, yes. Tanking is a game for fools.
     
    #14 Pizza_Da_Hut, Apr 18, 2011
  15. Rockets_4_life

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    If they remove the age limit with the new CBA, the 2012 NBA Draft could go down as the greatest of all time ... Here's the top prospect of the 2012 H.S. School Class that would be eligible if they remove the age limit..

    Andre Drummond C, 17yrs old, 6'11...

    <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DYlnK-kQuHA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
    #15 Rockets_4_life, Apr 18, 2011
  16. LongTimeFan

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    ^

    I was all for making the one-year requirement. Now that my team's stuck in mediocrity, I want it removed. It didn't matter if you were a top five pick or top 20 pick when HS kids could declare.. generally you could find gems later in the draft.
     
    #16 LongTimeFan, Apr 18, 2011
  17. Pieman2005

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    Wow lol.
     
    #17 Pieman2005, Apr 18, 2011
  18. Angkor Wat

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    Considering Bernie Mac is dead, that'd be a pretty amazing feat.

    "Let me tell you something America, I can coach these Rockets into the playoffs! jangalang jangalang jangalang....."


    [​IMG]
     
    #18 Angkor Wat, Apr 18, 2011
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I say trade everyone over 25 on the team ASAP. Load up on picks and build a Long tall front court.
     
    #19 REEKO_HTOWN, Apr 18, 2011
  20. T-Slack

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    I been thinking the same thing since the top prospects were staying to school. But the only way we can do that is if we get rid of K trash and Scola. If Morey is gonna try to be greedy and hope to tank with them on the roster to add the top pick wth them, it isn't gonna happen. If they are still on the roster we might sneak in the playoffs only to get spanked.
     
    #20 T-Slack, Apr 18, 2011
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