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[Sports Illustrated] Chris Ballard Piece on Daryl Morey - "Moneyballsy"
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...95/1/index.htm

http://insidesportsillustrated.com/2...8/moneyballsy/

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Chris Ballard on How The Rockets Are Bringing Moneyball To The NBA

Rockets G.M. Daryl Morey is the NBA’s equivalent of baseball’s Billy Beane. He sees basketball differently from most NBA executives, and using analytical methods that many other general managers reject – or even mock – Morey revamped his roster in the off-season, working the margins of the sport’s economy, then unloading players when their value peaked. Morey knows many other executives are rooting for him to fail, but Chris Ballard explores why Morey will risk everything to back up his methods (page 55).



The latest print issue of Sports Illustrated has a piece by Chris Ballard (author of "The Art of a Beautiful Game" -- I provided a summary on the parts about the Rockets in that book here) on Daryl Morey and what the Rockets are doing with their "moneyball" approach.

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like his latest piece on the Rockets will appear online. If anyone gets Sports Illustrated, please post on any interesting parts you read from this article.
 
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Something similar.Not sure if it's part of the article,but interesting









 
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Sounds really interesting.
 
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Battier believes having good defenders behind him is crucial to what he, or any great perimeter defender, does. This part was very interesting to me:

Battier pauses. "I'm lucky to have a guy like Yao. He's not the best shot blocker, not the fastest, but he's there. Chuck Hayes is an unbelievable help-side defender. It wasn't until I got better help behind and better interior defenders that all of a sudden my reputation as a defender grew. Is it a coincidence? I don't think so." He laughs.

"Not to take away from the great perimeter defenders in this league, he continues,. "I think Ron's one of the best, I think Bruce Bowen's one of the best, I think Tayshaun Prince is one of the best, I think Kobe is one of the best. But they usually have guys behind them that make their job a heck of a lot easier."
Battier's view on this is very different from, say, Nick Anderson, who claimed that he always looked at it like his help wasn't there. He said that his job is not to rely on help, but to stop the other guy by himself. Battier disagrees: "I think the opposite. I don't want to be on Kobe Island, I've been on Kobe Island enough in my career -- it's not a fun place to be. I'm trying to get off Kobe Island." :D
HAHHA yes. Yes this is why I love Battier.

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Ouch @ Luther Head comment.

And the coach is right about Lin's shot. I've said before he was lofting the ball up, rather than guiding it with his follow through. Mario Elie-ish. Ball travels vertically too much.


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HAHHA yes. Yes this is why I love Battier.
Wrong thread, I assume.

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Really great article I recommend picking up the issue. Has luck on the cover.

A few interesting bits.

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houston is in position to have ample cap room next summer, enough to sign another foundational player. Morey's not picky about w ho it is we can't afford to be he says
Alexander on morey's future: stick with him as long as it works... When will we know? Two years

Parsons: nice to be part of something that's going to be special... Or at least I hope so. (Referring to staying)
 
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Ouch @ Luther Head comment.

And the coach is right about Lin's shot. I've said before he was lofting the ball up, rather than guiding it with his follow through. Mario Elie-ish. Ball travels vertically too much.
My question: if Lin reduces arc on his shot, would he still be able to hit those shots over Paul Gasol and Dirk like he did last year?
 
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My question: if Lin reduces arc on his shot, would he still be able to hit those shots over Paul Gasol and Dirk like he did last year?
Pau Gasol

And hopefully he doesn't have to.. He'll be able to get his basket around those guys, this is mainly for his set jumpshot
 
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I can totally see Lin pulling a Steve Nash and just getting better and better the older he gets.
 
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houston is in position to have ample cap room next summer, enough to sign another foundational player. Morey's not picky about who it is we can't afford to be he says
We're F###ed.
 
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I can totally see Lin pulling a Steve Nash and just getting better and better the older he gets.
barring some injury there's no other way for Jeremy
 
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We're F###ed.
Key term here is "foundational player".

Morey has already said himself that one of the worst things you can do is spend max money on non-max players.

I don't think we have to worry about Morey giving big bucks to Al Jefferson, Josh Smith or Paul Millsap.
 
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Morey picked the wrong sport to play moneyball in. You simply cannot win championships in the NBA without having the best player in the league on your team.

Baseball and Football, you can win using sabermetrics. Basketball, you cannot.
 
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Key term here is "foundational player".

Morey has already said himself that one of the worst things you can do is spend max money on non-max players.

I don't think we have to worry about Morey giving big bucks to Al Jefferson, Josh Smith or Paul Millsap.
Josh Smith may not be Morey's first choice, but I bet he is on Morey's short list next season (or via trade).
 
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Morey picked the wrong sport to play moneyball in. You simply cannot win championships in the NBA without having the best player in the league on your team.

Baseball and Football, you can win using sabermetrics. Basketball, you cannot.
 
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Morey picked the wrong sport to play moneyball in. You simply cannot win championships in the NBA without having the best player in the league on your team.
Meh. Having the best player in the league certainly gives you a great shot, but you need a lot more than just one player and you can very well win the title with your best player being a top-5 or top-10 player.
 
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The 04 Pistons were an enigma. And they didn't repeat as champs.

If you want any real staying power in the NBA you need the best player in the league to make that happen.
 
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Look, if you run down the list of NBA champions you will seldomly find a team that didn't have talent.

In the MLB or the NFL, you can find plenty of teams that win while not being the top 5 most talented team in the league.

With the NBA, you need a superstar. In the other sports you don't.
 
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Meh. Having the best player in the league certainly gives you a great shot, but you need a lot more than just one player and you can very well win the title with your best player being a top-5 or top-10 player.
Give me some examples of teams that can win without a top 5 player.
 

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