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[Larry Lightning] Player Rankings By Position

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by rocketfan21, Aug 17, 2014.

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  1. rocketfan21

    rocketfan21 Member

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    Rankings coming every Sunday. Center and power forward ranking released so far.

    Center rankings

    Power Forward rankings

    I appreciate criticism even if it's not constructive, because that's what rankings are for. They're for the "How in the HELL do you rank this guy 4 slots above such and such, idiot!!"

    Will update this thread with the final three positions. Thanks for reading.
     
  2. Pull_Up_3

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    lol not even a homer but Noah isnt better than Howard

    agree for the most part on the list though
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    I see you've bought into the Joakim Noah media hype train. He's good, but he's not better than Howard. What does he do better than Howard besides passing and free throws?
     
  4. DreamShook

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    When the "energy guy" is in the first sentence when making a point for best center in the league, you fail. Trade Noah and Dwight straight up I wonder which team becomes instantly better.
     
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    Thought the playoffs would have proven who is better, Dwight was doing more for Hou then Noah did for the bulls.
     
  6. shastarocket

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    I know what you are saying, but this is a poor way to prove your point. Noah is the heart and soul of that Chicago team and defense. I'd argue that they become worse no matter who replaces him.
     
  7. afk

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    Those top ten PFs... :(
     
  8. Nook

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    Noah is over rated now... He got his ass handed to him against the Wizards and struggles against real centers.
     
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    Howard can't even get his team out of the first round against a marginal portland team. Ask any gm - ask daryl morey if he'd trade dwight for marc gasol - and every gm in the league would make that deal, if they had the chance to get marc gasol.

    everybody likes to say how great howard is, but show me the results. He has done nothing for nearly 5 years.
     
  10. DrNuegebauer

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    Noah hasn't hit 50% from the field in 2 years.
    He's a very solid player, but to rank him ahead of Dwight is completely laughable.
     
  11. Aleron

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    Nice attempt at trolling :rolleyes:
     
  12. Pieman2005

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    Why would you blame Dwight for the 1st round exit :rolleyes: He played as well as anyone did in the playoffs. He put up 26 and 14 against Portland, but you're going to blame him for losing? :rolleyes:

    A lot of great players have lost in round 1, btw. Dirk lost to an 8th seed. Timmy lost in the 1st round a few years ago. Losing in the 1st round doesn't necessarily blemish a player.

    BTW, what do you consider "results"..? What has Marc done that Dwight hasn't..? At least Dwight carried a team to the NBA finals 5 years ago, so I'm not sure what your point is..
     
  13. VBG

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    I would go Dwight >= healthy Marc Gasol > Noah personally

    Marc Gasol 5th seems way too low to me. He has an elite rebounding PF next to him. His raw rebounding numbers are low but that's partly because he doesn't chase rebounds at all. He's pretty great at just boxing out and sealing his man.

    He's also the 2nd best shooter in his starting lineup which is weird.
     
  14. Aleron

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    Hey what, are you willing to take a bet with me that in this year's GM poll, that Dwight or Marc get more votes for the best center?
     
  15. VBG

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    Well, Noah is gonna probably win even though he's pretty clearly the 3rd best center of the 3.
     
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    Love #1 is beyond absurd

    Blake griffin is the best PF in basketball right now, and then a handful of guys ahead of Love
     
  17. Aleron

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    from GMs? really? Dwight won last year despite being all nba third team, they generally see things a little different to the press.
     
  18. DrNuegebauer

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    Your power forward rankings are whack.

    Criticism of Lee as a stat stuffer, because he plays no D. But putting Kevin Love (sub 46% shooting) at number 1, despite having no D... hrm?
    The top 10 is a mess.

    And then you rank Markieff Morris ahead of Jones, because of his 'floor spacing' (31% from downtown vs Jones at 31% from downtown) - check the metrics, Jones allows his teammates to score at higher % (and more layups) when he is ON the court, vs OFF (and Jones manages a 55% FG to Markieff 49 - and pretty much has him covered in all stats, despite being a year less experienced). To me, Markieff is a 'stat stuffer' - just a guy who thrived on the 2 PG lineup in PHX, and is probably one of the worst players in your top 30!
     
  19. DrNuegebauer

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    I reckon Noah cannot possibly win when the bet is 'who will get more number 1 votes out of Dwight or Marc Gasol'

    How can Noah win????
     
  20. Pieman2005

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    Kevin Love was #3 in win shares, #3 in PER, put up 26 and 12. Who is ahead of him?

    :rolleyes: Love's 2 point FG% was .502. His overall FG% is .457 because he takes a lot of 3 pointers. But he converts .376% of them. Trying to use Love's FG% against him is laughable.
     

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