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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

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  1. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
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    Yeah, he's pretty hilarious. And the stuff he does on Trump is spot on. Cool that you appreciate it.
     
  2. PeppermintCandy

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    It was a great landing. Big league landing. Everyone said that it was the best landing they'd ever seen.
     
  3. crose

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    So RocketsLegend, HardenTime, and ScolasBallin are all the same account, correct?

    EDIT: Same person with different accounts, I mean.
     
  4. Cohete Rojo

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    It sounds like the NYT trying to downplay the importance of jobs and freedom - for people of all colors. Though, I don't Trump's Kinky Friedman-esque "What do you have to lose" rhetoric is going to bring in 95% of black voters by 2020.

    [rQUOTEr]Donald Trump’s Description of Black America Is Offending Those Living in It

    TAMPA, Fla. — Campaigning over the past week, Donald J. Trump has painted a bleak and dire picture of black America.

    African-Americans live in neighborhoods that resemble “war zones” more than cities, he has said. They struggle to get by on food stamps. Fewer and fewer of them own their own homes. And errant gunfire is a constant hazard.

    “You’ll be able to walk down the street without getting shot,” Mr. Trump told a crowd in Akron, Ohio, on Monday, saying how blacks’ lives would improve if he were president. “Right now you walk down the street, you get shot. Look at the statistics — we’ll straighten it out.”

    “Our inner cities are suffering like never before,” Mr. Trump said at a rally here on Wednesday.

    Dogged by suggestions that he is running a racist campaign, Mr. Trump has been speaking about and expressing concern for black voters more in the past week than at any other point in his presidential run.

    But he has been doing so in front of nearly all-white audiences. In Austin on Tuesday, a few blacks were seated behind Mr. Trump, where they would be seen on television during his speech. Otherwise, the crowd was predominantly white.

    Republican pollsters and strategists speculate that Mr. Trump’s newfound attention to blacks and inner-city conditions is aimed less at actually vying for African-American support than at softening his image among suburban whites who might otherwise be receptive to him but are loath to vote for someone seen as racist.

    And some African-Americans who have been listening say the picture Mr. Trump has been painting of black America — a nightmare of poverty, death and danger, brought about by failed Democratic policies and leadership — is unrecognizable.

    Marc H. Morial, the president of the National Urban League, said Mr. Trump’s depiction of a desperate, hopeless black America did not match reality.

    “It’s an inaccurate portrayal of the community that seeks to define the community by only its biggest challenges,” Mr. Morial said. “Black America has deep problems — deep economic problems — but black America also has a large community of striving, successful, hard-working people: college-educated, in the work force.”

    Indeed, Mr. Trump’s description of urban decay can sound anachronistic — more applicable to the New York of the 1970s, when Mr. Trump first entered the world of real estate at his father’s side, or of the crack-plagued early 1990s, when he was a fixture of the city’s tabloids, than to most major cities today.

    “You could go to war zones in countries that we’re fighting, and it’s safer than living in some of our inner cities,” Mr. Trump said in Akron.

    His sales pitch can also sound bluntly dismissive.

    “What do you have to lose by trying something new, like Trump?” he asked a crowd in Virginia on Saturday. “You’re living in your poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed — what the hell do you have to lose?”

    Mr. Trump would seem to have nowhere to go but up among African-American voters. A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found Hillary Clinton with a 91 percent to 1 percent advantage over Mr. Trump among blacks. His credibility problems with blacks stem in part from his role in leading the so-called birther movement that questioned President Obama’s birthplace, an attempt to delegitimize Mr. Obama’s presidency that offended great numbers of African-Americans.

    On Tuesday, the Clinton campaign seized on Mr. Trump’s new language toward minority groups, hosting a press call with black Democrats in Congress who criticized Mr. Trump’s approach as bigoted, exploitative and“too little, too late.”

    Jason Miller, Mr. Trump’s spokesman, did not respond to an email seeking comment. Nor did Omarosa Manigault, the former “Apprentice” star who is a top adviser to the campaign on African-American issues.

    Elon James White, the founder and editor in chief of the website This Week in Blackness who is a frequent critic of Mrs. Clinton, said Mr. Trump was trying to co-opt the left’s arguments against her, but in such a cartoonish way that it would not work.

    “He doesn’t understand that people aren’t stupid, and they can clearly see what he’s doing and saying,” Mr. White said. “Whether or not I have an issue with how Democrats have dealt with the black community, or with Hillary, I’m still not stupid.”

    Mr. Morial, of the Urban League, noted that the group had invited Mr. Trump to attend briefings on its policy concerns, but that he had declined.

    “The idea that the entire community is in poverty, you’ve got 25 percent of the entire community that’s in poverty?” Mr. Morial said incredulously. “You do have broken schools, but have you seen the Olympics? Have you seen Congress?”

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  5. NewRoxFan

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    Donald Trump caught exaggerating story about meeting with 'top' Chicago police officer

     
  6. Rashmon

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    I've mentioned this before as well. Same moniker construct and same posting styles.
     
  7. RocketsLegend

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    oh great. A foreigner coming here and telling us who we should vote for
     
  8. R0ckets03

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    LOL with your Persian background!
     
  9. dharocks

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    ScolaIsBallin has said that he isn't Iranian, for what that's worth (though it was in a thread about visiting Iran).

    Has RL said anything about being from Cleveland?
     
  10. peleincubus

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    You won't listen to a "foreigner" or anyone else. Not unlike some of the liberal posters here, I KNOW. You seem to accept Zero insight from posters here. Everything Trump does is great and nothing anyone could say would let you say that is a bad thing. It's practically a complete waste of time for you to post here because of those reasons above.

    Are you going to stick around once Trump gets stomped?
     
  11. Anticope

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    Seriously. The guy eats up every word that comes out of Trump's mouth and Trump can do no wrong in his eyes yet he runs around accusing everyone else of being sheep. I'm not sure how someone that stupid can function in every day life.
     
  12. RocketsLegend

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    I'm a US citizen. I bet Olive boy can't even vote.
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    he probably meant Top Cat not Top Cop
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  14. xcrunner51

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    Downplay as in that's not the point of the article?

    Like it or not, courting the black vote will require special interest pandering. As a group that's seen significant systematic discrimination, they're not going to buy the whole 'rising tide lifts all boats' argument on jobs. They'll need specifics on how exactly their lives will be affected, whether it be generating inner cities jobs or improving educational opportunities for under-represented minorities.

    They assume, likely correctly, that a rising tide probably helps others more than them.
     
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    Blacks need "specifics" on the importance of economic independence?
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    Trump's Cooked Books...

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/24/donald-trump-used-campaign-donations-to-buy-55-000-of-his-own-book.html
     
  17. Ottomaton

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    You mean, in the same way BaylorBear09 let us all know he was a proud black woman?

    If he's making up fake accounts to try and hide his identity, anything that he has said about himself (whichever version of "himself" he is currently wearing) is bull****. Most of these fake accounts end up getting caught because they tell so many contradictory lies that they can't keep track of them and something slips through.

    If you are inherently deceptive enough to think creating fake accounts to try and hide where the words are coming from is a good idea, you aren't going to be giving an honest account of who you are and where you come from.
     
  18. RocketsLegend

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    You people are mentally ill. Try investigating something useful like Hilary's corruption.
     
  19. Ubiquitin

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    What was the last corrupt thing you believe she did?
     
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    He's not just a "Miss", he's a "Proud Black Miss".
     

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