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Woj Bomb: Miami has expressed interest in Russell Westbrook

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tristan_fiore, Jul 8, 2019.

  1. Jontro

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    i pray he goes to the bucks. shiiiiieeeett greek freak and brain fart in one team would be unstoppable
     
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    Six big Russell Westbrook trades BSPN would like to see

    If the Oklahoma City Thunder trade All-Star point guard Russell Westbrook, what deals would make sense?

    OKC is likely headed toward a rebuild, following Paul George's departure to join Kawhi Leonard and the LA Clippers over the weekend. Westbrook is interested in being dealt to a contending team, according to a report by ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski, and his camp has discussed trade possibilities with Thunder general manager Sam Presti.

    While Westbrook is coming off an All-NBA season, he will turn 31 in November and is owed $171 million over the next four years, which could complicate potential trade packages.

    Our NBA Insiders give six Westbrook deals that work for both sides.

    Phoenix Suns

    Suns get: Russell Westbrook
    Thunder get: Guard Tyler Johnson, forward Kelly Oubre Jr. (via sign-and-trade), center Aron Baynes, 2022 first-round pick (lottery protected, otherwise converts to second-round picks in 2022 and 2023)

    Kevin Pelton: Because Phoenix wouldn't trade star guard Devin Booker (who would team with Westbrook in a high-scoring backcourt) and Ricky Rubio can't be traded until Dec. 15, a trade to the Suns almost certainly would have to include a sign-and-trade involving restricted free agent Oubre. As long as Oubre's deal was for a minimum of three years and started at more than $12.1 million, this deal would work.

    Getting Oubre, a 23-year-old wing who averaged 20.6 points per 36 minutes after last season's trade to Phoenix, would be the main value for Oklahoma City in this deal. It also potentially yields a first-round pick if the Suns become a playoff team and gives the Thunder cap flexibility. With Baynes and Johnson both in the final year of their contracts, Oklahoma City would save somewhere in the neighborhood of $25 million in 2020-21 salary depending on the deal Oubre signed.

    Unfortunately, this deal leaves Phoenix's roster somewhat imbalanced. After previously being overstuffed there, the Suns would suddenly be thin on the wing and reliant on first-round picks Ty Jerome and Cameron Johnson to play rotation minutes as rookies. Phoenix also would be too crowded at point guard with the addition of Westbrook alongside Rubio, who agreed to a three-year, $51 million deal less than 10 days ago and would no longer really fit. But the Suns would still have an excellent chance of ending a nine-season playoff drought.

    Detroit Pistons

    Pistons get: Russell Westbrook
    Thunder get: Reggie Jackson, Langston Galloway, Tony Snell, 2020 unprotected first-round pick, pick swap in 2021, 2022 unprotected first-round pick

    Bobby Marks: The Pistons already have two core players on the roster in Blake Griffin and Andre Drummond, and acquiring Westbrook gives them a franchise point guard under contract for the next four seasons. Due to their cap situation, the Pistons have few other ways to add this kind of All-Star talent. With Jackson and Galloway on expiring contracts -- plus Snell serving as a two-year placeholder at forward -- the cost for Detroit is essentially three picks.

    OKC sheds the $171 million left on Westbrook's contract for that expiring money and additional draft assets. Following this deal, the Thunder would have eight future first-round picks and the right to swap in three separate seasons. It also would get OKC closer to dropping below the tax threshold.

    Miami Heat

    Heat get: Russell Westbrook, Patrick Patterson
    Thunder get: Goran Dragic, Justise Winslow, Kelly Olynyk, 2025 first-round pick (top-10 protected in 2025, unprotected in 2026)

    Tim Bontemps: Since George was traded late Friday night, the Heat have been mentioned most frequently as Westbrook's likely next destination. Miami is committed to trying to be good right now after adding Jimmy Butler. The team has the culture to fit Westbrook's competitive personality and is locked into contracts that make sense in a trade for Westbrook's large salary.

    This deal would allow Oklahoma City to acquire a young player (Winslow) and an extra pick. And while it would mean the Thunder would take on slightly more money (a necessity because Miami is hard-capped), the Thunder would then have Dragic and Danilo Gallinari as two massive expiring contracts. They could flip both between now and the trade deadline to get more assets back and save further cash on their luxury tax bill.

    Denver Nuggets

    Nuggets get: Russell Westbrook
    Thunder get: Paul Millsap, Juan Hernangomez

    Andrew Han: Reach for the stars, Mile High. Or star.

    Denver has tried repeatedly in recent years to woo a top-tier free agent to no avail. The Nuggets' core roster is young, talented and in the mix for a suddenly wide-open NBA Finals berth. And while Westbrook might not be the triple-double juggernaut of MVP yesteryear, a selectively focused force of nature Russ could thrust a Denver squad that already is a legitimate threat past other title suitors.

    Oklahoma City's interests are mildly egalitarian: Send its franchise face to a squad that is poised to make a run. For the Thunder's trouble, they get another high-value expiring contract that could be flipped for more assets, a young big, more breathing room from any tax implications -- oh, and the public relations victory of "doing right" by a franchise star with no title route in OKC.

    Minnesota Timberwolves

    Timberwolves get: Russell Westbrook, Andre Roberson
    Thunder get: Andrew Wiggins, Jeff Teague, Josh Okogie

    Andre Snellings: If the Timberwolves consider moving on from Wiggins, the four years and $122.2 million left on his contract make finding a logical home for him difficult. However, he fits very well as the main piece in a deal for Westbrook, who is owed almost $50 million more over that span. Wiggins also is still just 24 years old, and he averaged 23.6 points per game during the season that he turned 22. Wiggins isn't particularly efficient and doesn't bring much else outside of his scoring, but OKC could take a swing on him having upside left during this rebuild. Teague, like Gallinari, is a starting-caliber veteran on a large expiring contract who could have future trade value. And Okogie, a first-round pick from 2018, is coming off a promising rookie season, and he looks impressive thus far at summer league.

    Meanwhile, Westbrook and Karl-Anthony Towns would form an elite one-two punch for the Wolves, catapulting them higher in a suddenly wide-open Western Conference where two All-NBA talents seems to be a prerequisite. Towns and Westbrook have very synergistic games, and each could be the other's ticket to the next level of team success. When healthy, Roberson is an elite defender, and he would pair with Robert Covington to give opposing wings fits.

    Chicago Bulls

    Bulls get:
    Russell Westbrook
    Thunder get: Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn, Cristiano Felicio, 2020 first-round pick (lottery protected in 2020, top-10 protected in 2021 protected, unprotected in 2022)

    Bontemps: Chicago is the best basketball fit for Westbrook. After years of being surrounded without real shooting in OKC, Westbrook would be on a team that stretches the floor at almost every spot on the court. That would give him the room to do what he does best -- attack the basket relentlessly -- with the spacing to potentially improve his efficiency.

    For OKC, this trade accomplishes the three primary objectives of a Westbrook deal: save money, acquire an intriguing young player and receive a first-round pick. It gets the Thunder fully under the luxury tax line (with room to spare). As a 24-year-old shooter, LaVine could continue to improve to the point that OKC flips him for more assets down the line. And the Thunder continue to stockpile picks.

    All in all, this feels like a fair deal for both sides.
     
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  3. HOUSTON2017

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    so atleast the Rockets are not favored to get him (ala Butler) , there not being mentioned much..
     
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    I'd say "Thank God" except the guys we have been "favored" to get we struck out on.

    This is one I'm hoping for a swing and a miss.
     
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    Some of those trades without picks are just weird.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    the last time i rooted this hard for Miami was when they beat Dirka Dirka in the finals!

    Go get your man Miami!
     
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  7. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    In my mind, OKC's expectations should take into account what they got back from the PG trade. Like LAC didn't trade for JUST PG. In theory it was a trade for PG + KL. So, OKC got *the trade haul* via the PG trade. And now with RW, they just need to *get off his contract* to wipe the slate clean.

    In other words, don't expect a great return. Maybe a player prospect and expirings or players with 2yrs left on their deal.
     
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    That was actually the only time in my life I was rooting for Dallas, which made me hate Miami even more.
     
  9. topfive

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    Yep. Considering where they are currently, if I'm OKC, I'm looking to get back prospects and picks, plus whatever expiring contracts would be needed to make the numbers work.
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You're thinking 2011. I'm thinking 2006
     
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  11. aelliott

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    Agreed that the LAC situation was different and really a move for 2 stars.

    Miami doesnt really have any picks so what will they be willing to give in the way of prospects?

    Does OKC get one of Herro, Bam or Winslow? I cant see them getting more than one. Or do they just get expirings?

    I'm sure OKC would love to acquire more picks but Miami cant really do that without moving one of those 3 young guys.
     
  12. Deuce

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    I think you can do Dragic (expiring) + Olynyk (2yrs, serviceable player) + Winslow (asset).
    or Dragic (expiring) + Olynyk (2yrs, serviceable player) + Waiters (2yrs meh) + Herro (asset).

    Dragic as an expiring could be flippped for an asset perhaps. You take on Olynyk and/or Waiters salary (unavoidable), but it is less years than RW and go under the LT.
    Winslow or Herro are your asset.
     
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    OKC is going to want picks in any deal. Westbrick is way undervalued here, although his contract is bad. My guess is there are a number of suitors. Miami needs partners. I'd gladly give up a first and house and other minimums for Winslow. Still think Chris Paul is a better gamble for Miami.
     
  14. HOUSTON2017

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    if it happens i will be at a lot of games :) russ is a exciting player to say the least..
     
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    Can’t we get in on this somehow? Miami needs picks to grease the deal. They need to move some salary. We have picks and we could sure use some of their talent. Can’t we offer pick(s) for one or more of their players that Riles could then move on to OKC to close a deal? Take on a talented player(s) to reduce Miami’s cap hit. Perhaps include one from us with an expiring deal. Tilman keeps saying he doesn’t give a damn about the LT. Let him prove it?

    I would love to make Riley’s life miserable by facilitating Miami getting Westbrook, especially if it could help us.
     
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    Agreed. Most exciting 30% shooter in the league.
     
  17. tmoney1101

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    Yep misread your comment.
     
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  18. aelliott

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    We can't trade House for 3 months.

    Matching salary for Winslow's $13M is tough as Miami is hardcapped and have no wiggle room. If Miami trades anyone, they can't take back more salary (even within the allowable limits). Houston would need a combination of tradeable contracts that totaled between $10.4M and $13M.

    You could certainly include additonal teams to make it work but that makes it tougher. At that point, it would be easier for Miami to just send Winslow to OKC and they can flip him later if they like.
     
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  19. BigMaloe

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    I'd like for the Minnesota rumor to be true because I think their is a 3rd team Avenue there for us to acquire Covington.

    Minnesota out: Teague, Covington and a 1st
    Minnesota in: Westbrook

    Houston out: all the minimum guys and a 1st
    Houston in: Covington

    Oklahoma out: Westbrook
    Oklahoma in: Teague, minimum guys, hou1st, min1st
     
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  20. davidxhz

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    getting winslow or dragic from the firesale might be good
     

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