Why is it that when it comes to coaching, they get none of the credit and all of the blame?

Isn't Sloan that coach who had 2 of the 8 best players in the NBA - Malone and Stockton - and could not win a championship?

 

been curious about rockets fan feedback on sloan coaching as well. i thought the negative replies when the subject is brought up is due to jazz rivalry (gen speaking)?

 

Michael Jordan. Scottie Pippen. Phil Jackson.

The question is whether a realistic candidate is better than McHale.

 

Yeah, you're probably right, but I think as all of us are fans it's in our nature to nitpick.

We all obviously want everyone to do well, but those questionable coaching decisions can sometimes put a black mark on our impression of the game and, I guess, we overblow them.

Most of us try to be objective, but as fans were passionate (I can't speak for everybody), and tend to overthink things. I can see both sides, really.

 

I just brought it up. I personally don't hate the Jazz or any other NBA team. It would be a fruitless emotion.

I just brought up the fact that Sloan had more talent on the Jazz rosters than even the most unrealistic dreamer would attribute to the Rockets roster. And he never managed a title.

 

In short, Morey got the Rockets better and more inductive-to-winning players than their ages indicate.

While he hasn't played at that level this year, Linsanity was Linsanity because of the 7-0 and the way Jeremy Lin elevated the play of his teammates, as one example. Morey himself said the incredible part about Lin's play last year was he put up the stats, AND "made the team better and helped it win". And that that was rare in young players.

 

They're playing Greg Smith more (obviously due to PPat injury too). They're good in my book. I wish Bynum was playing on Wednesday so Smith would beast him out of the gym too

 

Yeah, I definitely agree, but like i said in my post above, I think it's in our nature as fans to nitpick and point out perceived faults. I guess, the rationale behind it is that if we could fix these faults we would be running at our optimum efficiency, therefore we could see what we're really capable to achieve as a team consistently. I suppose it is sort of pointless, though.

Either way, in terms of coaching, it definitely could be worse.

 

And they went to the "Finals" twice, losing to the Bulls. The Bulls were 6-0 in the NBA finals with that certain MJ. It wasn't like the Jazz only got to the 2nd round a couple of times.

 

lol like your attitude!

 

No argument here. I just brought it up to try to deliver some perspective into the Rocket fans coaching spaz attacks.

 

Well, my post said he seemed good with player development, holding players accountable and had the respect/trust of the players, and I added a question mark on whether this offsets his weaknesses in in-game situations and X&Os. I also said the coaches (him and Simpson) had one 1/8 of the games this season due to the unfortunate circumstances this year.

But I added that I fear McHale talks a better game than he can actually coach (I mean the in-game/X&O stuff).

You can debate whether the Rockets would've had a materially Better/worse record or not with a better coach or better in-game decisions, but you can't seriously say many of those decisions (very key ones) did not range from puzzling to downright low probability bets (which is my poker analogy). You can win taking low probability decisions, but that doesn't make them good decisions.

Let me add a bit more. I recall Morey saying McHale scored tops in his interview in terms of things like what plays to run in late game situation (or in different situations) for example when to go 2-for-1, what play to run out of time-outs etc, and that his instincts actually matched closely with Morey's statistical data.

But it's hard to believe our in-game decision making have really been great.

Hence I fear McHale talks a better game, and in-game, when everything is moving fast and real-time, cannot adjust quickly enough or accurate enough. Perhaps he'll improve with more 'coaching' experience. Knowing what to do and actually being able to do it when the time calls for it, can be very different things.

 

Well, considering that Morey also chooses the assistant coaches (by default since he and McHale reached an agreement that allows Morey final say, and Morey required McHale to keep Morey's hand picked guys) the only possible answer is that Morey is just fine with McHale as a head coach.

 

I think posters on Clutchfans believe that McHale does not have to justify his in game decisions to the rest of the Rockets organization. His decisions can be and probably are questioned by:

Les
Morey
His assistant coaches
McHale himself.

And realistically, the in game coaching is the product of both McHale and his staff. That man is not sitting on an island.

 

Clutchfans aren't the only ones blaming the coaching.

ESPN: Sampson and McHale failed Jeremy Lin

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8757744/jeremy-lin-shows-new-york-knicks-why-keeper

 

if this continues and we have the 2 guards meshing well. Who cares about the past. The Head Coach is back, maybe sampson was playing a risky move by benching lin (might have affected his confidence and created doubt within him), maybe sampson was limitinging lin's minutes for him to heal his knee. But why bother digging into this ? Lets move forward.

 

Sure, got no probs with that if you feel that way.

I already mentioned if it is a consistent, valid criticism on the coaches, not just a child rant, then I think it is valid and reasonable to be posted. I think Torocan has certainly been amongst the most consistent of posters here, and uses a healthy combination of eye-test backed by data whenever he could.

Myself, i thinkMcHale brings pluses and minuses, and I think it will take at least this whole season for him to be judged fairly. He's effectively had less games head coaching as our starting five combined, so he's got a chance to improve also.