[Washington Post] We asked 100 media members who the NBA MVP is. It wasn’t close.

he's not on her ballot

 

Exactly. We'd NEVER seen a duplicate shooting season nor 73 wins.

 

This

 

The triviality of a symmetric stat line not withstanding, it is an empty feat for MVP purposes if there is no evidence it resulted in elite wining. This has been the case for 30+ years

 

Okay, victim

Good job deleting my request too.

 

I really have no beef with Curry winning that year. He was the clear #1 on a historically great team. However, it is odd that players and the media have such competing viewpoints. Players respected Hardens game more overall, but not a single media member did?

I think there's no question some would use it as an excuse to vote for someone else. Kind of looks silly though when he doesn't even make the all-star team and no one in the media even feels strongly enough to question that.

 

it was irrelevant. They changed the rules for MVP last season based on a media narrative....why would it matter if they did it 10 or 5 years ago or not? Especially since the golden age of hot take media sports coverage is a more recent phenomenon.

 

Irrelevant ?

You stated narrative was always relevant, then when asked to state previous history of narrative you say it's irrelevant. Okay, guy.

The Players voted Curry MVP in 2016, and Westbrook, last season.

Agreed

 

at this point, Harden should indeed be the unanimous MVP

I dare 1 person on here to give legitimate reasons why any of Lebron, Curry, KD, Giannis, or Kyrie should be placed ahead of him...

 

Sure, but do you think if Harden did the same thing as Curry that year it would have been unanimous? Harden is doing pretty damn close to the exact same thing except the wins and look how split his votes are.

 

I had to re-read my post to even see what you are talking about, since the only MVP selection I really have an issue with is last years. Congratulations, you got me on semantics I guess and my liberal use of "year to year". The post you originally responded to was about 2015 and 2017, and that's what I was responding to. Let me change two words in the post to convey what I meant

Do you disagree that wins was given more emphasis in 2015?
Do you disagree that stats was given more emphasis in 2017?
Do you think that the mediocre amount of wins the Thunder had in 2017 was really enough to count as a factor in the MVP voting or was it really just all about stats? And not "stats and wins" like you say?

In short, I agree with you the MVP has generally always been about stats and wins for the past 35 years. That is until last year, where it was only about stats.

 

91 of 100 votes equates to a huge split ??

Rockets will finish with much fewer wins than 73.

Just stop. You have no point

 

All star break bump of b-ball references MVP odds tracker

Harden - 71.8%
Curry - 8.3%
Durant - 4.8%
James - 4.2%
Antetokounmpo - 3.6%
Westbrook - 2.2%
Davis - 1.9%
Towns - 1.2%
Irving - 1.0%
Lillard - 1.0%

 

In that WaPo staw poll, Harden got 91 1st place votes, 8 second place votes and ONE third place vote.

We see ya Beadle.

 

2015 was equally stats and wins. Curry arguably out-statted James.

2017 was more stats-driven, but 1) the stat was considered unattainable and 2) OKC wasn't near (or below) .500.

Look, I think James should've won last season ('15 possibly too), but the discrepancy is 55-45, not 80-20 like most fans seem to think. This year however, it's clearly 80-20, or higher.

 

Right? I was just thinking "anyone who has Kyrie as their #1 MVP choice hasn't watched basketball in a while."

 

Bill Simmons and Chris Mannix probably all-in on Kyrie.

 

Should I congratulate James now or later on his back to back (February/March) MVP awards?

"Clear edge"
"Not close"

LOL Nice try Timmy!



I'll wait for the official announcement & only then I'll celebrate.

 

Someone voted Harden 3rd on his ballot. 3rd! Are you seriously that blind to the media hate he gets compared to Curry? My point was that it's hard to believe the Curry was unanimous when Harden freaking has a 3rd place vote THIS YEAR with basically the same stats. I ask again, do you think Harden would also have been a unanimous winner in 2016 if he was in Curry's shoes?

 

@J.R. yeah, amazing how that poll changed after 1) Westbrook/OKC had to come from behind to beat lottery teams and hit a couple of game winning shots and 2) the regular season ended and triple double was officially achieved. It was like "recency bias" at its worst.