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[Washington Post] We asked 100 media members who the NBA MVP is. It wasn’t close.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Vindicator, Feb 15, 2018.

  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    LOL you act like Curry has no help at all

    yeah that TEAM not Curry looked like straight out of a video game

    2015 Curry won MVP Harden Player's MVP
    Curry had only 23% share of the team's wins while Harden had 29%

    2016 Curry won another MVP (73 wins)
    Curry had 25% share of the team's wins
    (Harden had 32% of the teams wins but Houston only had 41 wins you all know why)

    2017 Harden had 27% share of the team's wins

    2018 Harden currently has 25% share of the team's wins (same as Curry's "video game" season")
     
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  2. khanhdum

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    Too bad a big chunk of voters are on espn and media bias
     
  3. EightDoobies

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    See, I hate that biased people can vote for MVP. 3rd place vote? You kidding me?
     
  4. mfastx

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    This should be his 2nd. He lost for opposite reasons in 2015 and 2017, so I don't think he should have gotten both. But he definitely should have gotten one.
     
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    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Harden (2015) - So you saying only wins matter for MVP? Alright!
    Harden (2017) - I thought you guys said only wins matter? I need the best stats too?
    Harden (2018) - What now b****es?
     
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  7. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Russell will probably finish Top 5 this season, but OKC's high expectations vs their current position is what really hurts him. His OBPM, BPM, and VORP -- which led the league in 2017 -- are all significantly worse this year.

    Stop acting like a victim and everything will be clear.
     
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  8. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    No season is ONLY about winning or ONLY stats.

    It's ALWAYS been a combination.
     
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  9. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    I mean, he only led the league in PER, BPM, VORP, WS, WS/48 on a team that won a record 73 games ...

    Harden also is leading in all those categories. Big difference in Win% (as great as the Rockets have been, they've already lost more games than the Warriors lost in the entire 15/16 regular season), and Curry missed only 2 games that year while Harden has already missed 7 games.

    I do wonder also if there's a Chris Paul effect that's drawing some votes away from Harden as well.
     
  10. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    What's hard to believe about the Greatest Shooting Season and the Great Regular Season Team having a unanimous MVP ?
     
  11. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Hold up, look at Bontemps here.

    When James Harden limped off the court inside Houston’s Toyota Center with a hamstring strain on New Year’s Eve, it appeared this year’s NBA most valuable player award was officially LeBron James’s to lose.

    But then a funny thing happened: James went and lost it.


    No, Lebron did not lose it....HARDEN WON it with his play and team success.
     
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  12. mathor

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    It's common knowledge that Harden cannot win the MVP. Lebron clearly lost it.
    Bontemps had it right.
     
  13. DCkid

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    It's true, but the point stands that the emphasis was clearly placed on one or the other from year to year to fit whatever is the most popular narrative. Also, it's not just winning...it's winning at an elite level. Something the Thunder didn't even come close to achieving last year.
     
  14. shtinkee

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    Could be, but it's likely the D'Antoni effect: "The system! The system! That's why Harden's so effective!... westbrick... triple doubles!!!"
     
  15. JayZ750

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    I definitely wasn't sure how the CP3 addition would work.

    I suspected either one of two things:.

    1. It'd work great, but at the expense of the type of "stats" Harden would need to be an MVP winner. This was my hope.
    or
    2. It wouldn't really work amazingly. And while Harden might have cool stats, the winning wouldn't quite be there (see OKC this year), so no MVP.

    I mean I considered option 3, what we're seeing, might maybe could happen, in a world where good things like that don't usually happen to Houston sports fans. But then... we did have the Astros, lol. Maybe things are changing.

    So in a world where the W-L record is off the charts, where Harden is down in some stats, but up in some others and still having a hugely statistically dominant year... AND CP3 is not only meshing, but also still having an amazing statistical season...

    It's definitely his to lose.
     
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  16. Sidarma

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    I am more interested in harden getting finals mvp.
    Regular season mvp, westbrick and first round exit, forgotten forever.
     
  17. Hakeemtheking

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    Harden deserves it. Very proud of him.

    Don't think he will replace Hakeem as Houston's all-time great sports wise, but in my book he is already the best Rockets player since Hakeem.

    Harden's personal and team records bear it out. Need a couple of chips to come closer to Hakeem.
     
  18. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Please post the last 10 MVP selections, and state which of stats or wins was emphasized, and state each's narrative.

    Thunder's winning wasn't elite, but the Feat was one seen as impossible.
     
  19. kevC

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    Not arguing he shouldn't have won. He absolutely should have. It's just that it was UNANIMOUS, which has NEVER been done in the league. There was not even a single person who even wanted to be different. I've never seen such a media darling.
     
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  20. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    OK. Instead of complaining that his vote shouldn’t have been unanimous, I think it makes more sense to complain about prior votes that you think absolutely should have been unanimous.

    I can’t fault voters for casting the obviously correct vote.
     

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