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Trump's senior adviser just said something that sounded like an actual dictator

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  1. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Contributing Member
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    Note that Miller was not giving answers off the cuff. This response was prepared and approved by the White House.
    https://www.indy100.com/article/tru...or-stephen-miller-cbs-face-the-nation-7577291

    Trump's senior adviser just said something that sounded like an actual dictator

    Wil Jones about 6 hours ago

    This is Stephen Miller. Despite only being 31 years old, he was a senior policy adviser for Donald Trump’s election campaign and has since been named Senior Adviser to the President.

    He also co-wrote Trump’s inauguration address.

    On Sunday morning, he was interviewed on the CBS news show Face The Nation. And people are particularly concerned by what he says in this clip.

    The particularly scary part?

    That sounds ominously like the words of a dictator or a despot.

    America is a country where the leaders are elected by the people, and are held account by the people. Saying that the administration “will not be questioned” is the total opposite of this.

    Fun fact: when Stephen Miller ran for class president at his high school, he got booed off the stage.
     
  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    I'd call that a foundational fact that fits hand-in-glove with his current view of America and the world. Dude is damaged goods and has a scary, whack-assed view of reality.

    What I'd call a fun fact: dude needs to work on his resting b**** face, or the natural comparisons to Herr Goebbels will keep coming.
     
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    Either your wrong when you took a small piece of the entire quote instead of the full, "powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned" and didn't understand that he means current/legal powers of the president will not be questioned. Or your out of context quote snippet proves your point and you should be so scared that you don't sleep at night.

    So which is it?
     
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    The president is accountable to the people. Everything he does is subject to questioning.
     
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  5. Ubiquitin

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    Read the OP again. The full quote is right there. The presidents power can and should be questioned as the president works for the people and is bound by the constitution.
     
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    GTFOuttaHere!! You want to question the Constitution now?! Damn you libs really have gone full anarchy.

    Fact is you only quoted the quote portion that makes your point. You're trying to be fake news but doing it poorly. The full quote implies legal power of the POTUS won't be questioned. They will not do something (intentionally) that violates law. If they do it will be struck. They never said they were expanding those powers or they would violate those powers and leave them be. Quit lying and start better threads.

    Someone didn't take civics classes growing up. First learn how our Constitution and Government work them come back to D&D.
     
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  7. AkeemTheDreem86

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    So it won't be questioned, unless it's questioned?
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    Trump will be subjected to checks and balances. The POTUS cannot violate the laws or constitution. The POTUS and executive can neither write nor interpret laws. It can only enforce them. While historically presidents including Obama have gotten away with duties that are beyond their scope, it does not mean the separation does not exist. And Obama was challenged for his actions too. It's elemantary school level civics. There has to be a School House Rock episode about this.

    More importantly and back on topic, Trump's White House should stop trying to delegitimize the courts and using language like this. We are a liberal democratic republic with three equally powerful branches of government who can check the powers of the other two.
     
  9. ipaman

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    I wonder what you libidiots would have called Lincoln when he suspended the constitution's Faithfull Execution of the Law Clause. Oh that Lincoln wanted to be Hitler before Hitler!!
     
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    The full quote including context is that powers of the president won't be questioned. I don't see the problem with that so long as the Supreme Court ensures the POTUS is not violating any other laws while exercising his powers. That's how it works. Are you looney libs are saying you don't like how it works?
     
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    Exactly and your out of context quote hatchet job doesn't say that. You're literally making stuff up, stop it.
     
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    If the powers of POTUS are not to be questioned, how could a court deem anything he did illegal? POTUS could simply declare "that's within my powers!" and the court couldn't question it?

    I'm sure it must be near impossible to not contradict yourself while jumping through all these hoops.
     
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    Sorry, your attempt to explain it didn't make it sound any less scary or dictatorial.
     
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    I watched the interview live. This is the quote, again. I will let the other posters come to their own conclusion as to its meaning.

    "The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned."

    Morning Joe's recap of the interview.



    You can disagree with my opinion and that of the OP article that this rhetoric sounds like a despot's but I know others agree with me.
     
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    LOL... when you are say, "the judicial branch ensures the POTUS is not violating any other laws" is questioning the powers of the President. That's why we have a system of checks and balance. And, in this case, the judicial branch is acting in that role by providing a check on what the President was attempting to do.
     
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    You realize that he posted everything you quoted, plus more, right?

    What you posted:


    Either your wrong when you took a small piece of the entire quote instead of the full, "powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned"


    The quote included in the OP:

    The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned.

    Are you simply illiterate?
     
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    His grasp of language and comprehension is just so intimidating. How could morons like us possibly understand?
     
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    Acceptance is important to grow. I'm proud of you friend.
     
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    @Major @Azadre @NewRoxFan the full quote did not imply they would not honor the separation of powers or the constitution like you are trying to make it sound. the quote is meant to say they will not question the current/legal powers of the potus and why should they honestly. who are they to make the potus more or less powerful than our forefathers decided.
     
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    LOL, now bringing in the founding fathers, who most certainly were trying to avoid an imperial president. You keep making it worse for your argument and the scary statement by Trump's spokesperson. You really should enroll in a local community college class in civics or US government, or US history.
     

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