There Was An Offer from Detroit for TMac

sab504 · Nov 15, 2008

AntiSonic said:

Actually, there were two different deals.

1. Chauncey and Tayshaun
2. Rasheed and Rip

The Rockets somehow passed on BOTH. This is worse then passing over Drexler in the 83 draft!
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Yeah, but morey coulda worked his magic and offer t gimp @$$ and reefer + fillers (whoever the heck they need to add in besides yao and ron) for chauncey and rasheed and this team would be beating everyone down to the ground right now. Chauncey is the perfect PG for this system. Can shoot, can pass, and can drive when he wants to. Rasheed is the outside threat if needed and can bang the boards if required too. He will bang the snot out of Boozer or okur. Geezz. This deal is history now. Tough luck rocket fans. You want tmac, you got him. You will see him drive to the basket twice a game and if lucky, will maybe make one of the two. Have a good nite!

Tsquare · Nov 15, 2008

Well forget this. It's over now and we probably missed out on a good trade. We must find another one. Possibly this one?...

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=157609

BigPun662 · Nov 15, 2008

why we never traded tmac for billups, i will never know....we couldve really used billups' experience and durability....and we'd finally have a PG...put artest at the two and battie at the three....sheed at the four...deep bench and we could move one of our forwards for a wing player...oh well

AggieDentist said:

my cousin works in the Detroit office, and he told me today that, before the Pistons pulled the trigger on the Billups-for-AI deal, they were pondering a Rip+Sheed-for-TMac+Chuck deal. those were the principal players in the deal, with possible allowances for picks either way.

at the time, they hadn't extended an offer to Rip yet, and they're still unsure of whether or not Rasheed re-signs with them. as has been widely reported, even though they traded McDyess away, there were talks of him getting waived by Denver, sitting out 30 days, and then going back to the Pistons b/c he's already settled-in there in the rotation. the front office is apprehensive about losing Rasheed for nothing, and with Maxiell, Amir Johnson, the ("agreed-upon") return of McDyess, and the encouraging play of Walter Hermann off the bench (not to mention Kwame in case of emergency), they were willing to part with Wallace. after the trade went through, they extended Rip, and so i'm guessing the offer is off the table.

i dunno how i feel about the (now moot) offer. on one hand, i'd be excited about having Rip and Rasheed, mainly b/c Rip runs around screens the way TMac should and Wallace gives us a legit 4/5 option (and an upgrade over Landry/Scola). Rip seems tailor-made for Adelman's offense, and he's still somewhat healthy, at least compared to TMac. and when it comes to Rasheed, i think we all know the positives he brings to the table.

on the other hand, neither player commands double-teams, and acquiring Rasheed would almost necessarily make this year a make-or-break one. as consistent as Rip might be, he doesn't have the game-takeover-ability that TMac displays 25-40x a year, and at the very least, doesn't command the respect of the defense the way Tracy does. i'd sorely miss Chuck's defense, but Rasheed is generally regarded as the premier post/PF defender in the league, especially against stars like Duncan, Amare, and Boozer. but while he'd be a great addition alongside Yao, there's the danger that he (& Artest) would bolt if we didn't get that far in the playoffs this year, making this a 1-year rental. most alarming for me was that this trade wouldn't solve our PG issues at all. sure, Rip can bring the ball up occasionally, but PG-by-committee with Skip, AB, Barry, Rip, and Luther doesn't exactly strike fear in the hearts of our opponents.

anyway, i thought this news was pretty interesting, and thought i'd share it with y'all. it's always nice to hear that other teams still value TMac, moreso than many Clutchfans do. i'm not his biggest advocate, but after losses, it seems like every member around here thinks our Houston's Big 3 is worthless, and then proposes to ditch everyone.
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Alvin Choo · Nov 15, 2008

AntiSonic said:

Actually, there were two different deals.

1. Chauncey and Tayshaun
2. Rasheed and Rip

The Rockets somehow passed on BOTH. This is worse then passing over Drexler in the 83 draft!
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Billups and Prince for TMAC!!!!!!!! And someone turn it down?

I find that ridiculous.

But show a link or a reference before making such statements.

BrooksBall · Nov 15, 2008

Financials aside, we'd be lucky to get Kwame Brown for him right now.

Nobody wants a gimpy former superstar having the worst stretch of his career.

Rocketrock · Nov 15, 2008

As far as I hate his performance, I still believe in his ability. I believe we can still do some trades with Bulls if we want. But we won't get equal value back for sure.

BrooksBall said:

Financials aside, we'd be lucky to get Kwame Brown for him right now.

Nobody wants a gimpy former superstar having the worst stretch of his career.
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ryandoc · Nov 15, 2008

Rocketrock said:

As far as I hate his performance, I still believe in his ability. I believe we can still do some trades with Bulls if we want. But we won't get equal value back for sure.
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...1981~2456~3028~532&teams=10~10~10~4&te=&cash=

Rocketrock · Nov 15, 2008

that's too cheap, at least they need to put Tyron Thomas in. Maybe Tmac for Kirk, TT, Nicioni. our line up will be

Kirk/alston/ab
artest/?
battier/nicioni
TT/landry/hayes
Yao/Mutumbo

trade scola, head to a good shooter who can run without ball, like Rip

ryandoc said:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...1981~2456~3028~532&teams=10~10~10~4&te=&cash=
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Tsquare · Nov 15, 2008

Rocketrock said:

that's too cheap, at least they need to put Tyron Thomas in. Maybe Tmac for Kirk, TT, Nicioni. our line up will be

Kirk/alston/ab
artest/?
battier/nicioni
TT/landry/hayes
Yao/Mutumbo

trade scola, head to a good shooter who can run without ball, like Rip
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I rather see Tmac, Head and Scola for Kirk, Gordon, Niocioni, and Noah

Gordon is one the the best money shooters in the league to me and he can get 20ppg and Noah adds more high for us. I could see it happen...

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