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[Official] Joe 2020

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  1. justtxyank

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    yay! the thread we deserve
     
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    honestly looking at the field right now I think Biden is the first one I could imagine actually voting for. creepy hands and all.
     
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    Just keep your nose out of my wife's hair naw mean?
     
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    A political retread that is not suited for today. He voted for the Iraq war, strongly opposed gays for most of his career, he attacked sexual assault victims, ... his elderly age.... it's time for generational change and a new vision for the Democrats. Creepy Joe missed his chance in 2016. Plus if he molests young girls in public, I really am concerned what might happen behind closed doors.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    although the whole "buy a shotgun! buy a shotgun!" thing is probably a deal breaker :rolleyes: the senility factor is likely to only get worse

     
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    to be fair, so did just about everybody else
     
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    Well let the fun begin one that can beat chump has entered the race.
     
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    Trump opposed the Iraq war, whereas Creepy Joe voted for it. And not only that, but Trump is returning our troops home. That will make a stark contrast versus Biden in the general election. Trump is also the first pro-LGBTQ President, whereas Biden once referred to gays in the State Department as a 'security risk'.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    Hahahahahaha

    I like the "I'll pretend that all of Trump's lies are true" internet shtick
     
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    At least The Onion can bring back their Diamond Joe riffs.
     
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    this guy already beat you to your own analysis :D

    https://theweek.com/articles/836978/joe-bidens-campaign-going-parody-itself
     
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    Nate Silver thinks the media may be underestimating Joe Biden's chances:

    His media coverage will probably be unfriendly. The conventional wisdom about Biden has already been wrong at least once. His winning chances plummeted in betting markets after New York magazine published an account from Lucy Flores that Biden made her feel “uneasy, gross, and confused” when he allegedly kissed her on the back of her head at a campaign event of hers in 2014. But they later rebounded once a variety of polling showed that Democratic voters hadn’t changed their perceptions of Biden by much. So it’s possible that the media is underestimating how robust Biden’s support might turn out to be. . . .

    As a front-runner, Biden would seek to build consensus by not being too combative with other candidates, playing it safe on policy, spending time before different Democratic constituencies (e.g., unions, black evangelicals) and seeking endorsements among these groups, putting a lot of time and effort into fundraising, and projecting forward to the general election by emphasizing his strengths against Trump. In essence, he’d go into a risk-averse, “prevent defense” mode. The goal would be to win Iowa and/or South Carolina, at which point the field would winnow and Biden could use his fairly broad favorability to appeal to the rest of the party and glide to the nomination. In this strategy, Biden is probably perfectly happy to have Sanders in the mix, since Sanders as a factional candidate soaks up support from candidates who might otherwise leapfrog Biden. Not to mention, Biden is probably a favorite against Sanders in a two-candidate race.

    The problem with a prevent-defense strategy is that you tend to lose a few yards on every play even if you avoid giving up a long pass. And it’s not clear whether Biden’s position is robust enough to withstand this. If you’re Hillary Clinton and you start out with 60 percent or 65 percent of the vote, you can lose quite a bit of that support and still come out ahead. But if you’re Biden and you start out with 25 percent or 30 percent, there’s much less margin for error. Is Biden’s floor higher than everyone else’s ceiling? Maybe, but it’s not hard to imagine Sanders or Buttigieg or O’Rourke or Klobuchar or pretty much anyone else cobbling together 20 percent or 25 percent of the vote in Iowa, winning the state and sending the race on an entirely different trajectory — or Harris or Booker causing problems for Biden in South Carolina.

    Alternatively, Biden could adopt a more combative and defiant approach, leaning into his differences with the rest of the field, not playing it safe in his public appearances and perhaps even pushing back against the “identity politics” of the left. The idea would be to prop up his floor — to ensure that he won the 25 percent of Democrats who are older moderates — at the cost of lowering his ceiling. But this would also entail risk. He’d be resigning himself to being a factional candidate, and like Sanders, Biden could have trouble building consensus later on once the had field winnowed, even if he’d won some early states.

    So those are two deeply challenging paths to the nomination. Still, both are plausible, and having two paths isn’t so bad in a field in which a lot of candidates don’t seem to have any path at all.​

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-joe-biden-could-win-the-2020-democratic-nomination/
     
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    hadn't realized Trump had settled on a nickname for Biden

     
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    So we are back to two blow hard, old white men fighting it out in public......... and in private they drink scotch and down a 12 pack of Whoppers while mid 20's strippers bounce on their flaccid boners, as they give each other high fives and watch re-runs of Newhart on Nick at Night.

    It could be worse, no one is suggesting Martial Law tracking down a terrorist and no one is starting a war in the middle of the desert.
     
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    as long as Biden picks someone with a vagina for his running, um, mate, he should be okay.
     
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    I would say there is a REALLY good chance Uncle Joe will be 100% on board with a female V.P. candidate.
     
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    Sounds like a guy you mistake-in-chief supporters would love.
     
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