Nope, not necessarily. Then Washington would need a QB 1/12. Cleveland 2. San Francisco 3. Chicago 6. NY Jets 7. San Diego 10. Buffalo 11. New Orleans 13. Arizona 17. Washington 23. NY Giants 25. Houston Could make a case any/all of them could draft a QB. Either they don't have one or current one is near the end. 35 year old Philip Rivers, 38 year old Drew Brees, 37 year old Carson Palmer, 36 year old Eli Manning
How about that Jimmy guy then?: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/p...d-pick/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
I don't want to trade for Romo, just for a temporary fix. We should have done a better job the past 3 years drafting quarterbacks. They need to draft quarterbacks every year until they find the one. If they can't, then clean house and find personnel that can do a better job of scouting, analyzing, and evaluating talent. It's bad enough we are stuck with Brock's salary, but I am against giving away our young stars for a temporary fix. We need to find the quarterback we can build around and build a future with. It's a crap shoot with picking quarterbacks, and getting an 89th pick like Joe Montana or 199th pick like Tom Brady is a whole lot of luck. We don't need a Tom Brady or Joe Montana with our awesome defense though.
Like I've said all along, if the Pats are fine going forward with no legit backup QB instead of having Jimmy G, then it tells you what they think of him. If a team thinks that a random first rounder is more valuable than what some are hyping to be a "savior" type QB.....it shows that the team that he's been on for years disagrees with that narrative and views him as completely expendable. Young "savior" type QB's are not expendable.
lol nice not so subtle jab at Brissett. Maybe they actually like the guy? Brady will probably play for 3-4 more years, they are okay with Brissett, they don't want to lost Garoppolo in free agency. The Pats ask for a first end up getting a second and a fifth and call it a day.
Well I didn't really mean it as one, but I don't think anyone thinks he can be a serviceable backup QB, he's not very good at throwing the ball. Sure they beat the Texans with him, but that was more on what the Texans weren't doing than it was what Brissett was doing IMO.
This. Do you as a Texans fan really want to bet on Smith and OBrien's scouting assessment over the greatest coach in NFL history that has seen him at every practice and game?
Brady is going to be 40 next year.... betting on a 40 year old QB to play 3-4 more years is an incredible risk.
Garropolo is a free agent after next year. The only action that will show that they really love him is a contract extension. If they execute a trade, it's because they know he's an asset that can get them impact players during the 2 year window of Brady continuing to be a possible MVP. They're likely going to have to make a decision well before Brady shows signs of regression, which makes things that much more urgent. There's also the well known possibility that Belichick likely goes whenever Brady goes. They're going to want to maximize the time they have together.
It's a false narrative to say that if the Pats are willing to trade him he's not good. First of all, no one is saying he will be the next Brady. The argument is that if I'm right that he can be Matt Schaub level good then the Patriots would keep him and dump Brady after next year no matter what Brady wants to do? That's just stupid. The Pats see him everyday in practice and by all accounts love the kid, but that doesn't mean they think he's a superstar. They can think he'd be a good starter, recognize that he won't start for them because he'll leave in free agency, think Brissett is a competent QB and willing to trade him for good value that they can cash in to win another superbowl with Brady.
Exactly. When any season that you don't win the SB is a failure, you tend to operate differently than most average teams. Worrying about not being able to find another Jimmy G is probably on page 74 of Belichicks overall concerns. Once the Pats eventually move on from Brady, and Belichick hangs it up, theyre going to be in some limbo, regardless of who their next QB is.
We're you against the possibility of the Texans adding Peyton a few years back? That was a temp fix for the Broncos and they got two Superbowl appearances out of it. Temp fixes are great when they take your team to the next level. This team, with a QB, is a title contender. You get one regardless of permanent or temporary status.
Tom Brady is 40 to begin next season. There is no two year window, or any other known window at that age for a QB. Also an extension isn't the only indicator the Pats love him, they can franchise tag him or keep him next year and see what Brady looks like prior to a determination. The Pats have not made moves for the short term, even when Brady was 38-39. They traded their best defensive player Chandler Jones for long term reasons over short term needs. BB has given no indication that he will retire when Brady is finished.
Tom Brady is going to be playing in the SB at an MVP level right now. Yes, all things must come to an end... but unless he suffers a catastrophic injury, are you ready to predict when that's going to happen for him? Tell me how many 40 year olds have been playing at THIS level in the history of the game? Also, how many players have accomplished as much as he has... to the point that he can basically dictate his own terms... and he will. If he wants to play, they're not going to say no (especially if he's still playing at a high level). Yes, that counts too. A franchise tag is a form of an extension... and would be a clear desire for them to keep him. At the same time, them trading him doesn't automatically mean they think he's a scrub. He'll be 65 this year and has worked for 32 years full time consecutively in the NFL... by comparison, his mentor stopped coaching at age 64, and worked an additional 3 years in a front office role. He may not even outlast Brady, but presuming that Brady stops in the next 2 years, it make sense that a guy closer to 70 would try to line up things to coincide. And yes, there has been speculation that he will retire or move to the front office (like his mentor) once Brady and the other coaching staff members move on. McDaniel may literally be kept on for that eventuality.
People will find this out at some point. The fact that someone has pulled the trigger several times already without a bang doesn't mean that it won't be a bang next time in the game of Russian roulette that is being an old professional athlete. In fact if anything, it just means that their odds are getting steadily worse.
Indeed.... but even then, Peyton was showing signs of regression that final good year. Manning had to significantly change his style of play to account for his diminishing physical skills. Brady is putting up MVP numbers with the likes of Chris Hogan, Julian Edelman, and a recently acquired Michael Floyd. Statistically speaking (taking into account the 4 games he missed due to suspension), he may have just had his best season. He's still slinging it like he always has. Still sneaking it and putting his head in there. He has not changed a single iota about his game due to his age. Like I said, barring catastrophic injury... which tends to happen more often as players get older... the chances of Brady just magically "losing it" next year is pretty slim. Him getting a healthy Gronk back... plus some new additions on the offensive side either FA or early round draft picks may make it even easier for him.
EDIT: I didnt see Nick's response before I submitted mine. Oops. I dont think the message is that Brady is going to beat father time and play into his mid 60s. Peyton, even at 39 TDs, was on an obvious decline (for his standards), based on the velocity of his throws. He was still able to be accurate, which took him a very long way, but it was the arm strength that was deteriorating, and which eventually led to his poor showing in 2015. Brady, on the other hand, has shown no decline in his play. His arm is still there, just as it was a few seasons ago. The way he takes care of his body is on a different level than most. And when he says he has 4-5 more solid years left, I dont doubt that. Now, it may not be that long, but I do think he will play at a high level for at least 3 more seasons, barring injury. I think his injury risk will go up as he ages, but his body has yet to show signs of slowing down. Yes, it will happen. However, the Patriots need to make a decision on Jimmy G far before that happens. In other words, like Nick has been saying...if the Patriots dont hold onto Jimmy beyond his rookie deal, its not an indictment on Jimmy, but rather, understanding the fact that Brady still has at least a few more seasons to go...at which point, it makes no sense to hold onto Jimmy.
