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Is the left helping Trump unwittingly?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheresTheDagger, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. TheresTheDagger

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    I saw this clip in a tweet and watched it today. In short, Bernard Goldberg summarizes why he feels the left might be helping Trump unwittingly. I found myself nodding in agreement with him.

    And Goldberg is not necessarily a big Trump fan. Thought it was interesting and would be a good topic for all here to weigh in on.

     
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    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    No, Trump is unhelpable, look at his approval ratings.

    DD
     
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    And once again DD misses the entire point of the thread.
     
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    Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to that. Look at why he won the election, Trump was one of the most unlikable people around.....but then Hillary showed up and was even more unlikable.

    Right now, there's a ton of people that don't like the president, but the more the hard left comes out from under the bridges they live under and fling dung, the better he looks by comparison. The best thing they could do would be to keep quiet and let him hang himself with his own words.
     
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    Alt-Left hahaha ....

    I can see the rallies now...."Hail Universal Healthcare"

    Flags flying with pictures of Jimmy Carter and solar panels.

    Such a dangerous group of lefties. Richard Spencer can't touch the alt left.

    Seriously....This is a page out of the kremlin's propaganda technique of mirroring what the other side is accusing your side of to try and level the playing field and obscuring and confusing casual citizens.

    The alt right is an actual group founded by an actual neo nazi that preaches the same Euro dominant ethnicity bull sh$& that nazis and neo nazis have spewed for decades. Fox News insinsuiting there is an equal and opposite version of a racist hate group is pure propaganda. And you are uneducated and ignorant if you think otherwise.
     
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    Communism/marxism which is on the far left of the political spectrum has killed more than any right wing ideology in the modern history.
     
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    Synopsis for people who can't watch?

    Saul has slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands. Quite a competition we've got going here.
     
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    Point of order: the alt-left are liberals opposed to identity politics, race/gender baiting, SJWs, and victim culture.

    To the OP's question -- absolutely the left are buoying Trump.

    The mainstream Hillary supporters and DNC loyalists who refuse to look themselves in the mirror while they tweet down the patriarchy and memorize the latest gender pronoun.

    Those are the people who created the Trumpian monster, or at the very least let it waltz into corridors of power.
     
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    What the hell is the "Hard Left" actually and who are the leaders out there leading the charge that are as equally as dangerous as a sexual predatory, racist, (non liquid)billionaire, elitist con artist?

    Who is coming out from "under the bridges" and tell me what is so dangerous about what that person is doing?

    Notice the speaker here in the video is using phrases like "these people"... and insinuating that the all encompassing "They" are doing this and "they" are doing that (etc apparently "they" are holding up signs at rallies with pictures depicting Trump as Hitler".

    At least the Tea Party had a name and they have their share of leaders we can point to as having positions in leadership like Rand Paul etc. Its extremely dangerous to spew rhetoric like this that encompasses everyone that didn't vote for Trump as the same and equal grounding as some kid at Berkeley who made a Trump Hitler sign and got caught on camera.

    Bobby... this is piece of FoxNews is complete bulls&@ and dangerous propaganda designed to demonize normal American citizens and further divide us. Stop contributing to the propaganda please.
     
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    Look at just about any riot or violent protest that has taken place in the last 20 years.....those are your "hard left" leaders at work.
     
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    So you are calling all non Trump supporters Commies now? Lol.
     
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    I made an edit to my previous post.
     
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    Actually those are just people.

    (All paid by George Soros of course)
     
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    LOL, and people make up groups....
     
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    The left's approach is certainly very effective. Just look at their victories in the Presidential election! And Kansas! and Georgia!

    BWAAAAHAHAHAHA
     
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    Venezuela had thousands protest yesterday... what a bunch of Commie citizens fighting against the pure Democratic great leader that is Maduro.

    GM pulling out of Venezuela as part of a protest to the government as well... what a Commie organization.

    Portraying any type of protest as a hard left stance that is on equal footing as the alt Right and portrayed as an act of "communism" is deeply dangerous and frankly easy for someone to do sitting in their living room eating cheetos off their chest watching tv.

    Just a few years ago the Most passionate Conservatives exercised their right to protest (T Party) and nobody offered a blanket classification of "Communists" for that group of regular American people.

    You want to compare Trump to folks on the left and give a test of who is more "American" fine... let's do it. But don't play this blanket "They" game with a non existing person that doesn't exist.
     
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    Wow... a far right wing nut thinks something negative about anyone that isn't a right wingnut.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sorry Donny but the Right can take ownership of their own creation started years ago when Rupert Murdoch put Roger Ailes in charge of Fox News and created a powder keg fear mongering White suburban middle America political machine.

    The consolidation of media of course holds some blame. Forced "branding" into our politics with customer loyalty being key.

    But I go back really to the pivotal period of Sarah Palin. Palin was a republican leadership campaign response to Obama and from that point on the next steps ultimately led to the Tea Party and then Trump.

    Again the Right leadership can take ownership of their own creation. George Bush supporters weren't responsible for the Iraq war which likely led to Obama being elected with his opposition message. Bush and Cheney were responsible for Lying to the American people. To a certain extent Bin Laden is responsible for the age of fear that Fox News and the Right used as an engine to drive their Machine.

    Blaming the voters in this case for circumstance of major events that they have no control of isn't fair blame. This is simply the Right not knowing who to cast as an enemy so they are trying out the proverbial "They".

    Now you can criticize the dnc leadership like Pelosi, Schmumer etc. if you want but connecting them to the ALL of the folks going to town halls etc is crazy. Most of them likely prefer a change in leadership at the DNC anyways. Most probably want Hillary to retire and let new leaders emerge. This blanket "left" blame game is pure propoganda IMO.

    It's showing a picture of come stupid kid at Berkeley busting a window and the right media saying "This is the left". "Your grandchild who voted for Hillary and Obama ... she is this person". It's propaganda dude.
     
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    What planet do some of you yahoos live on...smh.
     
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