1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[ClutchFans] Breaking Down the Rockets Blockbuster

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    21,522
    Likes Received:
    19,409
  2. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    3,597
    Likes Received:
    101
    do you mean 2008 playoffs? great article clutch.
     
  3. The Veeg

    The Veeg Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    11
    game-winning block in Game 3 of the 1998 NBA playoffs?

    Quick edit Clutch... article is excellent otherwise.
     
  4. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,642
    Likes Received:
    579
    Recruiting the beat writer? i sincerely hope that you are overselling that, and that's not the complete truth, because that's just bad, shady business and an easy way to get blackballed from future trades.

    I love the trade just as much as the next guy, but, as the saying goes "you can sheer a sheep many times, but skin him only once".
     
  5. J.R.

    J.R. Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    78,341
    Likes Received:
    74,699
    Great article/write-up and another good photoshop of Martin. Well done Clutch. Thanks
     
  6. Blurr#7

    Blurr#7 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2007
    Messages:
    5,262
    Likes Received:
    3,407
    Great write up Clutch. I love the breakdown how the trade went down. Morey is someone you do not want to play poker with.
     
  7. Codman

    Codman Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,716
    Likes Received:
    10,810
    Clutch,

    Great, specific analysis. What you wrote is different than what I've read by the beat writers and others on this board. It really puts the trade into perspective.

    I'm still cautiously optimistic about Kevin's health, but I think in a better environment, things can change.


    Hilton Armstrong is the piece that excites me right now. I think he's an undiscovered talent that has been overlooked. RA may give him his chance.

    Also, Jeffries is a solid player, as you wrote. He starts for Knicks and plays with defensive efficiency, but is, like you wrote, disgustingly overpaid.


    I'm excited for the playoff push, which starts tonight!!
     
    1 person likes this.
  8. rockets934life

    rockets934life Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    15,312
    Likes Received:
    249
    I am so ready for th rest of this season and the offseason because I have the feeling that the puzzle is coming together now. Morey is going to drop a bomb in the offseason in the form of Bosh, Amar'e or a mystery guy who knows with Dork Elvis.
     
  9. worzel gummidge

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    150
    Package those NY picks in a trade on draft night (safest option), or agree to a deal on July 1st (safe option), or hold onto them (playing dice in an alley)?
     
  10. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    21,522
    Likes Received:
    19,409
    bullardfan, The Veeg -- thanks for the heads up. I'm getting old if I'm typing 1998 to mean 2008. :)

    cardpire -- I changed the wording to more reflect my meaning.
     
  11. worzel gummidge

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    150
    On second thoughts a July 1st agreement might not be that safe. All it would take s a premiere free agent to agree with the Knicks on that day. Those picks go from being worth a potential franchise player to $3M cash considerations, ie if they can find a buyer for a low pick.
     
  12. v3.0

    v3.0 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Messages:
    16,203
    Likes Received:
    929
    So Scola was offered instead of Landry at first. I just never heard it from Morey outright, prolly never will since Morey is PR conscious about that stuff.

    Clutch, do you know the worst case scenario of those Knicks draft picks? Like if the Knicks get the #1 pick in 2011 and are in the top 5 in 2012? Are the picks pushed back a year or is it forfeiture of the rights? And if they are pushed back a year are the stipulations the same or removed?
     
  13. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    37,968
    Likes Received:
    16,277
    PHX may trade Amare for less than the picks though. I think Toronto is going to want too much.
     
  14. TriCkz

    TriCkz Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2006
    Messages:
    1,487
    Likes Received:
    30
    TC = SCAM COMPETE
     
  15. TXRoxBBall

    TXRoxBBall Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,143
    Likes Received:
    17
    Regardless of where the draft picks end up being, this was still a great hall. Morey is extremely good at what he does, evaluating talent, getting what he wants out of a deal and the bluffing that goes along with it.

    Clutch, was the proposed Amare deal our proposal or theirs?
     
  16. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    39,352
    Likes Received:
    16,445
    I think like most of us I hate losing Landry, but he does remind me quite a bit of another high energy, undersized, fan favorite power forward we sent to Sac Town... Kenny Thomas. I love Landry's play, but I believe we got out at the perfect time.
     
  17. Dubious

    Dubious Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2001
    Messages:
    16,548
    Likes Received:
    1,425
    So, the sign and trade option is the preferred route because the Free Agent player can secure the highest max contract from his own team before being traded?

    But wouldn't we still need to match salaries in that trade? meaning we would have to gut the entire roster to get Bosh? We would have Bosh at the super max and Yao at the max, Kev-mart at $10 million and 12 what? league minimums?
     
  18. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    37,968
    Likes Received:
    16,277
    Also it is good for the team trading him as they get something back in return instead of the player just walking away.
     
  19. ElPigto

    ElPigto Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2006
    Messages:
    7,548
    Likes Received:
    6,830
    My feeling all along has been that Morey wants Bosh and he has placed this franchise in an excellent position to get him this summer. We have draft picks, talent stacked overseas, some expirers (Jeffries, Battier, etc) that would probably worked for Toronto if Bosh decides to leave.

    We are definitely in for an interesting summer. Imagine getting Bosh and also retaining Luis and Kyle, definitely instant championship contenders.
     
  20. crash5179

    crash5179 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,443
    Likes Received:
    1,232
    I don't know if I agree with you assessment as undiscovered talent. But the Rockets may have no choice but to give him a shot at backing up Hayes. All of the big men off of the bench outside of Jeffries are foul machines including Armstrong.
     
Loading...

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now