I just watched a double interview with George Bush and Bill Clinton

I've told you the worst thing that could happen to the current state of Rockets fans here on Clutchfans

is if they suddenly lost the ESPN subscription and can't watch First Take.

Back then, Clutchans was ALL ABOUT CLUTCH AND USER CONTENT

 

Cardashian/PewdiePie 2028!

 

Coushatta has cheaper min. tables

 

The Trump presidency has really made me appreciate pretty much every president that came before Trump so much more. We’ve also learned that there are some really stupid and gullible Americans out there. How anyone could be a fan of Trump is beyond me.

 

So was Trump.

 

So...his base.

 

The GWB paradox makes more sense when you remember the real President was Darth Cheney.

 

Respectfully disagree with this. W has alot of really good qualities as a person, and did do really really good things (see work on Aids in Africa, etc.) but the entire infrastructure that he is deeply rooted in is what produced FoxNews and ultimately Trump.

The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq cannot be understated with how globally disruptive those wars have been that has led to much of the chaos and unsettling issues that allowed for Trump's brand to have a cult following. And it was all done to serve the same people that keep Trump in power... the fossil fuel oligarchs.

Bush was truly a terrible president, and others that came before him including Clinton have really lost their shine over time. None greater than Reagan who was really the face of the movement to completely alter our post WW2 Democracy to a system that established what we have now which might never be able to completely get rid of.

 

Yep. We've been worshiping personality since the birth of mass media (cheap newspapers). It's slowly soured the western world to a point where our leader is a narcissistic sociopath game-show host.

Character vs Personality Ethics. We need more character.

CHARACTER ETHIC Vs. PERSONALITY ETHIC

AKINGUNOLA Joel
Apr 6, 2017 · 3 min read

As part of my resolve to keep sharing some of the things I mentally reinforced during my re-reading session of "The 7 habits of highly effective people" by Stephen R. Covey, I today would love to share some insights into the personality ethic and character ethic.

As Stephen researched about 200 years of success literature, it was discovered that so much of the success literature of the past 50 years was superficial. It was filled with social image conciousness, techniques and quick fixes— with social band-aids and aspirin that addressed acute problems and sometimes even appeared to solve them temporarily, but left the underlying chronic problems untouched to fester and resurface time and again.

In stark contrast, almost all literature in the first 150 years or so focused on what could be called the Character Ethic as the foundation of success — things like integrity, humility, fidelity, temperance, courage, justice, patience, industry, simplicity, modesty, and the Golden Rule. Benjamin Franklin's autobiography is representative of that literature. It is, basically the story of man's effort to integrate certain principles and habits deep within his nature.

The character ethic taught that there are basic principles of effective living, and that people can only experience true success and enduring happiness as they learn and integrate these principles into their basic character.

But shortly after World War 1 the basic view of success shifted from the character ethic to what we call the Personality ethic. Success became more a function of personality, of public image, of attitudes and behaviors, skills and techniques, that lubricate the process of human interaction. This Personality Ethic essentially took two paths; one was human and public relations techniques, and the other was positive mental attitude (PMA). Some of this philosophy was expressed in inspiring and sometimes valid maximus such as " Your attitude determines your altitude," "Smiling wins more friends than frowning," and "Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe it can achieve."

Other parts of the personality approach were clearly manipulative, even deceptive, encouraging people to use techniques to get other people to like them, or fake interest in the hobbies of others to get out of them what they wanted, or to use the "power look," or to intimidate their way through life.

Some of this literature acknowledged character as an ingredient of success, but tended to compartmentalize it rather than recognize it as foundational and catalytic. Reference to the Character Ethic became mostly lip service; the basic thrust was quick-fix influence techniques, power strategies, communication skills, and positive attitudes.

My small boy advice to you is simply this; work on developing your strength of character instead of seeking cheap popularity and building castles through the personality ethic not bothered about the wrong foundation.

I wish you a lovely weekend.

 

You have to include the trashing of the economy. The deregulation of the banking industry almost ruined the country. With the costs of the wars he started and economic collapse the US is much weaker now.

 

The 90s Clinton economy has lost its shine when given modern context of how it wasn't sustainable and was nothing more than Americans accumulating personal debt through deregulated banking institutions handing out subprime loans like candy.

Reagan started the deregulation of wall-street practice that pretty much every president after him except Obama engaged in. Ever since Reagan, politicans were able to point to GDP growth and stock market growth as some sort of genuine economic health indicator for the average American when we know that today WallStreet and GDP growth is mainly fueled by consumer debt and neither metrics have any real value in discussing the economic health of the common American.

We seriously need to remove ourselves from praising gdp and stock numbers as some sort of barometer for how politicans are doing leading.

 

Clinton and Reagan were part of that disaster also.

 

and a lot of powerful people

kinda fishy that epstein 'killed himself'

 

How was Clinton? Unless I missed something. He was the most fiscally responsible President in the last 40 years.

 

He helped deregulate WallStreet.

 

100% agree.

 

It was a tech boom under Clinton like the cloud boom happening under Trump. The Clinton years were the beginning of the internet as we know it.... that was a huge factor in economic growth.

It ended with a lot of overvaluation but there was a lot of real growth in the Clinton years.

 

Personality wise, I've felt bush was humbled post presidency and has done his best to exhibit great character while Bubba always had that midlife crisis streak, ready and willing to test and break limits just to show he's still got what it takes to be on top.

I likely identify and trust Dubya more than Bubba.

 

This should be interesting.

 

When the dipshit-in-chief ran casinos, the house lost.

LOL