Fascist tries to kill civilians for political beliefs/Most media ignores it

individuals.

...and that is not a definition.

 

You have more personal freedom than you even realize. The state lets you choose your path.

Also wars are usually started for complex reasons... I don't think it is so simple as for the motherland.

 

The political violence discussed previously is a fascist action via your definition. Do you retract your definition?

A tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Those are the actions of a person who has a tendency toward strong autocratic control.

First he desires to kill and intiodate his polotical opponents and to take control by force.

Second he desires autocratic control as evidenced by his actions to take away the open and free speech necessary for civil society. He instead used force to control people into his vision and political will.


Now these actions are the actions of both communists and fascists because the is clearly a relationship. No they are not the same thing. People also don't usually call themselves fascists. They say nazi or communist. Because fascism is used to describe a certain level of support for the state and its control. This is prominent across different ideologies, including communism.

 

I don't agree... patriotism is devotion to a country but it is not making it a priority over the individual. One of the reasons many are patriotic is because they can practice and focus on individulism because of the freedom in America. You can choose to make the usa a priority over you if you want by the way...

also look up red fascism... i am not the first to realize the connection

 

They are different... that was my point

 

First:
Hypocritical? I vote when I want to. That is freedom... sometimes I even vote third party... but really I don't have to support either candidate. That is American freedom at its best. You can't actually say there is anything wrong with that. We are not compelled to vote. It's not mandatory. So spare me your lecture. Plus you don't want me to vote, because if forced, I would pick Trump at this point unless I am convinced otherwise.

Second:
Now, did you mean mud slinging? Not sure what you're on about.

As for Greg:
I never said he was a red fascist. The communist and fascism debate was a side argument we were having when you interjected. I don't know for sure if he is a red fascist but I am willing to be he is. Do you know about his political views? Also we are using what we know combined with his political violence to establish him as a fascist. Not that he is a red fascist though he might very well be. Bernie supporter I am sure, who is nothing short of a communist, and Greg likely considers himself part of the "revolution."

Finally: Please provide a definition of fascism instead of making your own. I use merriam webster: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.

Notice he shows his tendancy and support of autocratic control by trying to silence his opposition with violence... no better example. I will explain more later if time permits but please study autocracy in the mean time.

 

No, you can't actually just pick one. You have to be open to all of the definition or else you are cherry picking and not actually behind intellectually honest about the meaning of that word. Both definitions are valid. It sounds like you just don't want to get it. It is OK to relax a bit and say oh I didn't know there were more ways that word is used. Also, road rage is a false comparison because it's not political violence. This was clearly something else.

Oh and thanks I will enjoy my day. Enjoy your day too.

 

You are cherry picking your fascism. It is not limited to the right-wing and goes beyond Mussolini's Italy. Ultra-nationalist communist movements do exist as well. It is part of the package with communism actually to put the state at the center of everything. And you don't need a phd in poly sci to read a dictionary and read about history. Your argument is bunk, comrade. Oh and what I just said is according to just one definition of fascism. It has others as well, which you should read before you go spraying more nonacademic nonsense.

 

Strawman. Authoritarianism is about obedience to a power and the enforcement of strict rules. Communism involves authoritarianism actually but that's not my argument. My argument is that communism, when put into practice, aligns with the definition of fascism. That said, communism leads to a fascist state. The people who support it support fascistic methods to create that state and manage it (extreme political violence for example;revolution; gulags; etc.). The communist state always exalts the state above the individual. It inevitably has a centralized autocratic government with typically a dictatorial leader or at the very best a totalitarian autocracy in some other fashion. Communists also exercise strong autocratic control in all cases when it flares up like a terrible case of Herpes infecting the planet. Now go ahead and stomp your feet some more and tell me I'm wrong without making a real argument yourself, or just fabricate mine so you can feel smart.