Fascist tries to kill civilians for political beliefs/Most media ignores it

There is capitalism without a state somewhere in the world? Who is going to protect ownership of all that capital?

 

All communists are fascist? In what reality is that? Their ideologies are different

 

I'm actually, for the sake of argument, going with the definition provided earlier in this thread upon which many of us including yourself commented.

 

communism: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

One is extreme left, never happened or never will happen on this planet.
The other is extreme right. We've seen what Hitler had done under it and USA is trending this way underTrump.

The difference between these two are so big that only idiots or someone with agenda can mix them up.

 

What you essentially are doing is assuming the ideal intent of capitalism while comparing it to the realistic effects of communism.

In Karl Marx's ideal communism the public owns the means of production. Marx wrote in his manifesto ""the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat".

The sad reality is both forms in there most pure forms unchecked consolidate power due to human nature.

 

Fascism to succeed? Explain in detail. This should be fun how you approach this. Also again both of their ideologies are different.

 

All of this again goes back to the orginal argument. The person at the subject of this thread is not a fascists. Not one person has claimed this but you.

 

Literally one of the core principles of Marx was the riding of the worker class to gain power.

"the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat"

Complete opposite of what @dachuda86 is claiming about the ideology behind Communism.

 

This seems like the best place for this educational primer...

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The images in this piece are going to be straight from the white nationalists themselves, their guides to each other on how to mainstream their ideas. Often they operate in groups, like BUGS or similar. There may be an outright “nazi” that the other neo-Nazis point to in order to say “Woah buddy I’m not like that guy, what I say is reasonable and you should listen.” By and large the majority will NEVER admit to holding and espousing neo-Nazis beliefs, the goal is to lead you into the pit until you don’t want to get out and then drop the charade of put upon centrism. This hiding the true ideology under a layer of more acceptable talking points is called “hiding powerlevel”. To deceive and recruit people it is imperative that they can make a connection of trust first, and being outright in their beliefs would mean they get dismissed before they have the chance to recruit. They are going to appeal to you, they are going to use things you like to make you empathize with them, and then over time they will slowly, feed you the Whitaker mantras and white nationalist talking points.

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Just because both use authoritarianism to a degree does not mean they are the same and that all communists are fascist. It is why fascists states still practice religion where as in the communism states religion is banned. Their ideologies are different.

 

You're doing it again. You are comparing the utopian ideal of capitalism to a realistic executed example of Communism.

The public doesn't own anything in a pure capitalist market. The individual does. And in a realistic execution of a unchecked free market, capital is considildated into a few elite individuals that eventually take control of the means of production and have undue influence on government legislation.

Compare applies to apples.

Here is an idealistic take on communism from Marx himself:

"the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat"

 

Funny how you confuse authoritarianism with fascism while trying to say since fascism and communism use a form of authoritarianism that they are same. They are not.