Harden is a far better playmaker and shooter then Kobe could ever dream of being even in his prime. Kobe was a better defender and far more relentless in attack mode. He had a better motor then James who suffers from asthma. Right now it’s a neck and neck thing. Give harden a prime Shaq, gasol Bynum, Glen Rice,Ron Artest and so on and he will get a few rings to.
Haha, oh sorry, I wasnt arguing, I was merely adding on to what you wrote by voicing how overrated I think Kawhi is.
Similar arguments were made about Tmac. History only remembers champions as GOAT status though. Harden needs some rings or his legacy will be severely impacted. It's harsh. It's not entirely all within his control. But it's reality.
True dat bro. Imagine what the Legacy of Steve Nash or John Stockton would be if they had won a ring. They would be Larry Legend status. Dirk is above Nash and Stockton because of the RING. One ring to rule them all y'all holla. Tom Chambers would be in HOF if he had won a ring. Jack Sikma aka Butt Banger(yes, that is his actually nickname like Round Mound of Rebound) is in HOF because of RING Bill Walton is considered one of all time great because of RING Look at McHale, considered the greatest Low post player of all time. Would he be considered one of the great if not for the RINGS? Hell nah, he would be considred a Thurl Baily or Montrezzz Harrell or Carl Eat At Landry sixxxxx man
No rings = Not greatest of all time or HOF. How is Chambers not considered one of all time great like Dirk? Because of no Ring. This guy was a killer when I watched him with the Supersonic. Dirk like, not Chandler Parson like. He should be in HOF 2 times ALL NBA second team Top ten MVP vote 2 times Get it done Seattle@ Stop drinking coffee and protesting $15 minimum wage and get Tommy boy in HOF!!!! ★ - Indicates All-Star for league. Only on regular season tables.">Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% Effective Field Goal Percentage This statistic adjusts for the fact that a 3-point field goal is worth one more point than a 2-point field goal.">eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1981-82 22 SDC NBA PF 81 58 33.1 6.8 13.0 .525 0.0 0.0 .000 6.8 13.0 .526 .525 3.5 5.7 .620 2.6 4.3 6.9 1.8 0.7 0.6 2.7 4.2 17.2 1982-83 23 SDC NBA PF 79 79 33.7 6.6 13.9 .472 0.0 0.1 .000 6.6 13.8 .476 .472 4.5 6.2 .723 2.8 3.8 6.6 2.4 1.0 0.7 3.0 4.2 17.6 1983-84 24 SEA NBA PF 82 44 31.3 6.8 13.5 .499 0.0 0.1 .000 6.8 13.4 .505 .499 4.6 5.7 .800 2.7 3.8 6.5 1.6 0.6 0.6 2.3 3.8 18.1 1984-85 25 SEA NBA PF 81 60 36.1 7.8 16.1 .483 0.1 0.3 .273 7.7 15.8 .487 .485 5.9 7.0 .832 2.0 5.1 7.1 2.6 0.9 0.7 3.2 3.9 21.5 1985-86 26 SEA NBA PF 66 26 30.6 6.5 14.1 .466 0.2 0.7 .271 6.3 13.3 .476 .473 5.2 6.3 .836 1.9 4.6 6.5 2.0 0.8 0.6 2.9 3.8 18.5 1986-87 27 SEA NBA PF 82 82 36.8 8.0 17.6 .456 0.7 1.8 .372 7.4 15.9 .466 .475 6.5 7.7 .849 2.0 4.7 6.6 3.0 1.0 0.6 3.3 3.7 23.3 1987-88 28 SEA NBA PF 82 82 32.7 7.5 16.6 .448 0.4 1.3 .303 7.0 15.3 .461 .460 5.1 6.3 .807 1.6 4.3 6.0 2.6 1.1 0.6 2.5 3.6 20.4 1988-89 29 PHO NBA PF 81 81 37.1 9.6 20.3 .471 0.3 1.1 .326 9.2 19.2 .479 .480 6.3 7.4 .851 1.8 6.7 8.4 2.9 1.1 0.7 2.9 3.3 25.7 1989-90 30 PHO NBA PF 81 81 37.6 10.0 20.0 .501 0.3 1.1 .279 9.7 18.9 .513 .508 6.9 8.0 .861 1.5 5.6 7.0 2.3 1.1 0.6 2.7 3.2 27.2 1990-91 31 PHO NBA PF 76 75 32.6 7.3 16.7 .437 0.3 1.0 .274 7.1 15.8 .447 .445 5.0 6.0 .826 1.4 5.1 6.4 2.6 0.9 0.7 2.3 3.1 19.9 1991-92 32 PHO NBA PF 69 66 28.2 6.2 14.3 .431 0.3 0.7 .367 5.9 13.6 .434 .440 3.7 4.5 .830 1.2 4.6 5.8 2.1 0.8 0.5 1.5 2.8 16.3 1992-93 33 PHO NBA PF 73 0 23.6 4.4 9.8 .447 0.2 0.4 .393 4.2 9.4 .449 .455 3.3 3.9 .837 1.3 3.4 4.7 1.4 0.6 0.3 1.3 2.9 12.2
Chambers is one of two players, along Antawn Jamison, with 20,000 or more career points eligible, but not elected to, the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.
Toronto has more talent last year than houston. There top 7 were all very very good in the finals. And Lowry surprisingly out played cp3 this year. Regular season and playoffs. The one year Harden played with a legit top 12 player in cp3 the rockets one 65 games, had a historic offense and the best NET rating in the league. We were up 3-2 when cp3 went down. Harden prob does have a ring if we had better injury luck. Not to mention this past yer the series with GS was 2-2 with KD healthy and all Games decided by 5 points or less. Rockets have imo clearly been the 2nd best team in the league the past 2 years. Raps got a great hand and capitalized on the opportunity. Nothing more to really say. I personally think the rockets would have beat the raptors in the finals had they gotten their. Raps almost got beat in the 2nd round also. Kawhi hit a monster tough game winner in game 7. Winning a championship is a lot of luck.
Harden routinely had worse supporting staff than all those players. Hopefully, we can find a way to consistently convert in the playoffs.
Wait what? That Raptors team had "former" all stars in both Gasol and Ibaka.. who both still perform at a high level. Then you forget they had Danny Green and Pascal who are both darn good in their own rights. The Raptors were stacked.... But it did take a significant injury to both Durant and Thompson too.
Raptors were 17-5 without kl. Kl making 1st team with 3 all NBA appearances is a joke. He has had one great postseason run. His first fmvp was more of a team effort.
T-mac TRASH! Cant even get out of the first round...He's just a high volume shooter that shot very poorly. Anyone can average his ppg.
Still one more Allstar than Hardens played with the past 5 straight seasons brother. I’m not wrong either
You can let it die. Kobe never made his teammates better. Harden has made multiple careers just off his greatness and unselfishness. You think Clint would make 100 million dollars as Kobe’s big man?
No offense- but I don't think anyone cares about who you would or would not have your list. But for fun, who would you put up there insteasd? The second team has a combined 0 championships between them
