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We need to step up the James Harden All-Star push

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    heh I want to see what the players' voted!
    Can't wait to see super mad Westbrook now.

    Also very happy that Isaiah Thomas, didn't make it as starter.
     
  2. zeeshan2

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    no one gives a ****, it's all star game where it's just pick up ball lol
     
  4. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Bet me that it doesn't become a story leading up to the ASG.
     
  5. khanhdum

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    story on here or national news to who's going to be pg . might be on here since we're going to be bored with no rocket news but it won't be a national headline.
     
  6. amaru

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    It was unavoidable but Westbrook has every right to be upset with the ASG Starters.
     
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  7. YaoMing#1

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    Wow really because I think curry is good enough to be starting and is the better player I should stop watching basketball? He's only the b2b MVP and NBA champion your right that's crazy that he would start the allstar game.

    Westbrook is overrated that doesn't mean he's a bad player or not allstar worthy.

    You should watch basketball and not look at box scores. Westbrook does not make his teammates better, he has talent around him. Watch okc play his teammates are even starting to get annoyed you can see it on their face.

    Your acting like I said Eric Gordon should be starting over Russ.
     
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  8. BigTex

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    Westbrook demolished Curry in both the Player & Media Votes. But Curry gets in via fan vote tie-breaker
     
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  9. YaoMing#1

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    I meant okc

    Every GM would take curry over Westbrook.
     
  10. YaoMing#1

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    Nvm I see your a Westbrook fan.
     
  11. J Sizzle

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    Welp. The media voted Westbrook 1st. He's going to get the MVP.
     
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  12. Amel

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    No he's not

    MVP goes to Harden, its his to mess it up
     
  13. D-rock

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    Why the IT hate? He's certainly playing like an all-star.
     
  14. heypartner

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    Where are the results. If Curry won the fan voting, and WB was 3rd, WB would need to sweep media and player votes (beating out Harden) to even tie Curry. Did WB sweep player and media votes? If so, then Harden had to secure a 2nd finish in all three to have beaten out WB in a tiebreaker as well
     
  15. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Can someone post the three results between Curry, Harden and WB

    Was it a three-way tie of 8 points each

    Curry
    1st 3rd 3rd
    Harden
    2nd 2nd 2nd
    Westbrook
    3rd 1st 1st
     
  16. BucMan55

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    Actually I'm wondering why 1A and 1B in the MVP race aren't starting together in the back court for the all star game. While someone not even in the conversation for MVP is starting over one of the aforementioned MVP candidates.
     
  17. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    It was indeed a three way tie. WB swept the player and media votes. How much of that was them trying to get WB in as starter knowing Curry would likely win fan vote? Or is that what they actually believe. Anyhoot, Curry needed to finish 4th in something to get knocked out.

    From ESPN

    Westbrook actually was tied with Curry and Harden in the points tally after finishing first in the media vote and player vote and third in the fan vote, but Curry and Harden beat him out because the fan vote was the tiebreaker.​
     
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  18. zeeshan2

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    Yep those are correct. Graphic I saw was on TNT. They had some formula where they all tied with a 2.0 score.

    Media votes
    93 - Westbrook
    91 - Harden
    6 - Curry

    Player Votes
    167 - Westbrook
    149 - Harden
    63 - Curry
     
  20. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Yeah the formula is you add up each voting rank and add the fan rank twice, then divide sum by 4 to get their average rank where fan vote counts twice as strong

    Curry
    1+1+3+3 = 8 / 4 = 2.0
    Harden
    2+2+2+2 = 8 = 2.0
    WB
    3+3+1+1 = 8 = 2.0

    As I offered earlier in this thread, had they used a scoring system of total votes whereby media and player votes use a multiplier to make them loud votes, then Curry gets knocked out in a close fan vote outcome. Instead they used this point system which makes it nearly impossible for the 1st place fan vote recipient to be beat. The total vote method is better since the point system method has flaws similar to the Electoral College.
     

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