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Dwight gone based on this article

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ballplayer, May 19, 2016.

  1. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    So are you Dwight's agent...?
     
  2. Liberon

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    That's if Capela can gain 30lbs of pure muscle.
     
  3. DonKnock

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    I'd think we have better steroids than Switzerland so he should be good;)
     
  4. RudyTBag

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    Oh man please just leave already. He leaves every single city blaming everyone but himself. Dwight is the worst. Awful person, awful attitude. A child.
     
  5. JayGoogle

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    Just gonna leave this here.

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    Yeah man, I get it, this situation is eerily similar to the Lakers situation where Dwight put two coaches under the bus. I get it, and I Am probably wrong, but I feel you should work around faults, not expound upon them and make them worse during the season.
     
  8. MistaK

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    Honestly, this is nothing new. I know many on this board may be surprised, because it doesn't fit their narrative that a certain ball hog, who can't share the spotlight, didn't want to pass to Dwight.

    There have been numerous articles over the years stating the same thing - Dwight doesn't want to play the PnR. He wants to get fed the ball in the post and play inside out (He just doesn't seem to realise that that isn't his strength).

    Now his own article, in all honesty, doesn't make him sound good at all. You are a 12 year vet, the highest paid player on the team, you regard yourself as a superstar and you call yourself a leader and then you quit on your team and you have to have your friends and former players tell you, that pouting makes you look bad and that you should focus on defending, rebounding, etc. ??

    I tried to avoid getting into this blame game during the season, as much as possible, but from all the reports surfacing lately, it is pretty evident that when Dwight kept talking about 'having to put egos aside' he was talking about his HURT EGO. It very likely meant, that he wanted to be fed the ball in the paint (and I'm guessing the org did want that) and since they didn't feed him the ball, egos were never put aside and thus the team was never on the same page.


    Watching the Rockets it was obvious, and some reports attest to that as well, that a lot of things were wrong with this team starting with a structure and clear offensive/defensive philosophies. The coaching change early in the year, etc.

    But from most articles one thing seems to be very clear: Dwight was a major problem:

    - reports that Harden and other players on the team were upset that Dwight didn't seem to care and that he was being passive

    - Jason Terry's comments

    - various other reports that Dwight was disgruntled

    - Kevin McHale's comments

    - and now Dwight himself stating as much.

    It's a pity really, because he seems like a good guy...he just doesn't seem to quite understand that you should be playing to your strengths and that you don't necessarily have to be a go-to-guy to have a major impact on the game.
     
  9. jose

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    The problem isn't Dwight, it's Harden.
     
  10. Hardensway

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    This article is so true. Why the h*** does Morley have a say? Why do u guys here support him so much? Paid trolls much?
     
  11. roslolian

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    Didn't you complain of how bad ISO ball was? And you want somebody who can't score on his own effectively anymore getting touches in the paint :rolleyes:

    Its a two-way street, Dwight expected touches but the Rockets also expected him to convert when he has the ball, not waste time and then clang it at the rim.

    Also Morey HAD PLAYED BASKETBALL, he just didn't play it in the NBA. Do you need to be licensed chef to say whether food tastes good or not? Do you need to be a formula 1 driver to say whether a car is good or not? By your own logic you aren't even qualified to have an opinion on how the Rockets are being managed. At least Morey has been an NBA GM, you're a nobody so by your own logic why the **** should anybody pay any attention to you?
     
  12. TEXNIFICENT

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    What was the problem in Orlando? L.A.? Dwight is running out of people to blame.
     
  13. MistaK

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    Plenty of things were wrong with this team and I agree that better teammates, converting at a better rate would have helped.

    BUT the only one who quit on the team was Howard, he himself admitted as much. You can't say other players quit. They might not be as talented as Dwight, but they at least tried.

    Why do you think that towards the end of the season Howard got a few more touches, playing the pnr and crashing the boards harder? Because he was engaged more...but only after his friends needed to tell him to get his head out of his a** .... that's not what you expect from your highest paid player and supposed leader, is it now?

    Again, I really like Dwight as a person (from interviews and what I have seen him do off the court) but man, some of y'all wanna blame players, who at least try but wanna hold Dwight, who quit on this team, blameless??
     
  14. eqsharp

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    I think all the people bashing on Howard are definitely missing the point. Dwight actually has a legit reason to be upset.

    Can anyone name another team in the NBA where its second best player is isolated from the offense? And if you can, was that team successful?

    The Rockets CHASED after Dwight. He had other options. Any big time free agent signing expects the offense to be built around his skill set to a certain degree. And why shouldn't Howard go directly to Morey to talk about it? He knows the coach is a puppet and Morey is the one who brought him in.

    I seriously doubt Morey's pitch to Howard was "Dwight we want you to be the best screen setter in the league." :rolleyes: I can all but guarantee he promised Dwight far more than that to get him here.

    So Dwight gets lied to and treated like a first year scrub by the organization and he's supposed to just shut up about it, keep losing, and watch Harden shoot more 3s? And if he does say something he's the bad guy?

    Nah, that's bs. If he felt like he was lied to (and he most likely was) he SHOULD stand up for himself.
     
  15. MistaK

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    Can you name any other NBA team (playoff/contender) where their second best player is as limited as Dwight skill wise? And where said second best player has the freedom to run, what are in effect, inefficient plays?

    Would any team allow this or would they be telling him to focus on the things he is good at, that can help the team win?

    Dwight definitely should have got more touches at times, but that is on him too. Why wasnt he setting hard picks and rolling to the basket like say a DeAndre? He quit on this team and was pouting. Force feeding it to him at times, didn't work either because, frankly he isn't a good post player.

    So you can't blame coaching, management, or the players for going away from that play. If he simply set harder screens, didn't play half-a**ed basketball for the majority of the year, things could have been different.

    He might not have been (as) disgruntled, he would have got more touches, the team wouldn't have had to cater to Howard's demands for post touches, there might have been less friction on the court.
     
  16. Vivi

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    Beat me to it.
     
  17. Downtown Sniper

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    Lost in the euphoria of realising we won't have so many turnovers from Dwight, does anyone realise how many less turnovers Harden is going to have now when he penetrates and instead goes with his natural (and correct) instinct of scoring - instead of attempting to get the ball to Howard which is clearly to try and appease him.

    #blessed
     
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  18. eqsharp

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    The "limited offense" excuse is a convenient argument for the Rockets to throw Howard under the bus for not keeping whatever promises they made to him to get him here.

    The reality is Howard and his "limited offense" has lead a team of scrubs deeper in the playoffs than Harden and his "all world" offense.

    So to bring him in based on what most likely were false promises and then LATER pitch him on becoming SSC (Screen Setter and Chief) is not all that appealing to a player who has accomplished more than the player he's gonna be setting all these screens for.
     
  19. Beardaholic13

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    You do realize this team as constructed were 20 games oevr 500 when howard was injured right? It is proven that the best offense that suited this team was P&R offense and not post up....thats why when dwight came back for the playoffs that year he embraced that role and played well in the playoffs.

    But guess what happened? Stupid, immature, baby dwight came back this year thinking because he was "healthy" we should revert back to giving him touches in the post even thought historically and statistically dwight is a **** post player.
    You cant teach someone who will never understand....GTFO dwight and take your 3rd grade mind games with you.. you poor excuse of a leader, ****in quitter
     
  20. Vivi

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    The reality is that a team of scrubs reached a second place in the toughest western conference (and southwest division) ever without Howard, playing their best basketball on both sides.

    And the lomited offense argument is absolutely real, it's a fact, if you deny this you're just false. Name one thing Dwight can do well and/or consistency on offense?

    Also, the Magic were a great team cause they had a great system built by a great coach who got fired because Dwight was tired to play the right way.

    And yeah, these arguments are well known at this point, you can try to twist them as much as you want, but there're opinions and there're facts.
     

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