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Random Houston Rocket Trade Ideas 2019-20

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. BaselineFade

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    There's quite a few rumors surrounding the Clippers right now. They don't seem to satisfied with the current roster. Trez will be a restricted free agent so who knows.
     
  2. elmotsang

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    without green, is it chances to get back lou Williams
     
  3. J.R.

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    http://insider.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/28315198/which-nba-contenders-land-top-trade-targets

    Which NBA contenders can land the top trade targets?

    Which teams have the contracts necessary to acquire the top potential targets before February's 2020 NBA trade deadline?

    Matching salary will be a key driver in what teams do between now and then. With the large contracts handed out during the summer of 2016 coming to an end and largely consolidated on a few teams, more and more contenders have most of their salary tied up in their best players. As a result, they might find it difficult to acquire high-salaried veterans via trade.

    With the trade market set to rev up after the longest fallow period in recent memory, let's take a look at which teams have the right combination of players currently on the roster to pursue the stars who could be on the move.

    Kevin Love | F | Cleveland Cavaliers

    Salary: $28.9 million | Matching salary needed: $23.1 million

    Let's start with Love following the recent report by ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski that the Cavaliers are ready to listen to trade offers for him. Actually making a deal could be tricky, in part because of Love's large salary in the first season of a four-year, $120 million extension.

    For example, while Love might make sense for the power forward-needy Utah Jazz, matching salary would require them to include one of starters Bojan Bogdanovic, Mike Conley or Rudy Gobert. Otherwise, with Joe Ingles ineligible to be traded this season after an extension, Utah would need to package a minimum of eight players to match Love's salary without including Donovan Mitchell. So suffice it to say, Love isn't likely headed to Utah.

    Something similar is true of the Boston Celtics, who would have to include at least four players -- led by guard Marcus Smart -- in a deal while retaining starters Gordon Hayward and Kemba Walker.

    So which teams that might be interested in Love have the right matching salary?

    The obvious answer is the Portland Trail Blazers, who could make a deal now using the expiring contract of Hassan Whiteside. Alternatively, the Blazers could build a deal around Kent Bazemore's expiring contract by including minimum-salary players. Either version likely would add to Portland's league-high tax bill, but dealing both Bazemore and Whiteside for Love and Tristan Thompson (also in the final season of his contract) would be close to salary neutral.

    The Phoenix Suns are another intriguing possible destination for Love. They've got Tyler Johnson's $19.2 million expiring salary and a handful of options for getting to the necessary $23.1 million. Johnson and Aron Baynes ($5.5 million) would give Cleveland maximum salary relief, though Baynes has played an important role in Phoenix this year. Alternatively, Frank Kaminsky is making $4.7 million with a $5 million player option for 2020-21 and might be pushed out of Phoenix's rotation if the Suns actually added Love.

    Chris Paul | G | Oklahoma City Thunder

    Salary: $38.5 million | Matching salary needed: $30.7 million

    Given his salary, Paul presents an even thornier version of the Love dilemma. No wonder the Houston Rockets were willing to give up two first-round picks and two pick swaps to deal Paul for Russell Westbrook (making the identical amount).

    At the time, the Miami Heat reportedly were interested in Westbrook. And they could deal for Paul too using the $19.2 million expiring contract of Goran Dragic as the centerpiece of a trade. That process is complicated by the hard cap that the Heat are subject to after acquiring Jimmy Butler in a sign-and-trade. Miami can't add more than $855,000 in salary, according to our deadline primer from Bobby Marks. So Dragic and James Johnson ($15.3 million salary, $16.0 million player option for 2020-21) is not possible, though it would be sufficient salary in return.

    Instead, Miami might have to build a bigger deal. Dragic, Johnson and Justise Winslow would work if the Heat took back injured Oklahoma City wing Andre Roberson, who is in the final season of a contract paying him $10.7 million. Of course, acquiring Paul would imperil the Heat's hopes of being a player in 2021 free agency, but it is possible from a cap standpoint.

    Danilo Gallinari | F | Oklahoma City Thunder

    Salary: $22.6 million | Matching salary needed: $17.6 million

    Though Gallinari's $22.6 million salary is more modest and fair value, matching could be difficult if Portland isn't interested. Gallinari for Bazemore works straight up if the Blazers believe Gallinari can defend small forwards and is worth the cost during what could be a season lost to injuries. (Gallinari's full Bird rights would have value to a team such as Portland, either to re-sign or use in a sign-and-trade given his likely suitors this summer probably won't have cap space available to offer him more than the midlevel exception.)

    Gallinari would be a lower-risk upgrade for Phoenix at power forward, as the Suns could deal Tyler Johnson for him straight up.

    Outside of those two, we're reaching. As mooted by the Hollinger & Duncan NBA Show, the Toronto Raptors could swap Serge Ibaka for Gallinari if they want to turn their backup center job over to Chris Boucher and get more shooting on the court. Or perhaps the Sacramento Kings would be interested in sending Trevor Ariza (whose 2020-21 salary of $12.8 million has just $1.8 million guaranteed through June 30) and Nemanja Bjelica (whose 2020-21 salary is non-guaranteed) for Gallinari.

    Andre Iguodala | F | Memphis Grizzlies

    Salary: $17.2 million | Matching salary needed: $12.2 million

    With the Grizzlies still hoping to land a quality draft pick for Iguodala rather than buying him out, it will be interesting to see whether a contender tries to avoid battling for him as a free agent. Because Iguodala makes less money than the other players we've discussed, his market is much wider.

    The Dallas Mavericks are a natural fit. They could send the expiring contract of Courtney Lee straight up for Iguodala to upgrade their wing rotation.

    The LA Clippers are another compelling Iguodala trade candidate if they fear he'll go to the rival Los Angeles Lakers after a buyout. A package of Maurice Harkless and Jerome Robinson would work for Iguodala now. Or the Clippers could send Harkless and Rodney McGruder once McGruder becomes trade-eligible on Jan. 15.

    If the Lakers want to trade for Iguodala to avoid the risk of him heading elsewhere, they could try to send Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, injured center DeMarcus Cousins and one other low-salary player in return. But because Caldwell-Pope re-signed with the Lakers using early Bird rights and can be a free agent next summer (he has a player option for 2020-21), he would have to approve the deal and would lose Bird rights for his next contract unless he picks up the player option now. If Caldwell-Pope says no, the Lakers would have to trade multiple rotation players to make an Iguodala deal work.

    The Blazers also could make a move for Iguodala. A deal sending Bazemore and a minimum-salary player for Iguodala and forward Jae Crowder works financially and would replenish Portland's depleted frontcourt, but at the cost of adding $11 million to their tax bill. Alternatively, Bazemore for Iguodala works straight up and would save the Blazers some money.
     
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  4. Zoplicone

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    I really think we have to dangle House in a trade. I know this forum loves him but he’s so replaceable.
     
  5. Vivi

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    Trez is going to be unrestricted, Clippers have no control on him, if he wants to leave he'll leave. I guess it'll be all about money at this point, he'll probably look to get paid big time, Clippers might not want to take the risk to lose him for nothing.
     
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    I can't believe he's averaging 19/7... I cannot believe he was thrown into the trade for salary matching. I was by far the most upset about losing Trez ( i understand matching but I think there were other ways and Morey just ran out of time) and the pick (which I thought was overkill) during the CP3 trade. I love Bev but I knew he wanted to move on and try being more featured.
     
  7. Vivi

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    I think the Rockets would ship House in heartbeat if they can take back a player they like, the salary matching problems are still there though...i don't really know if a guy making around 11/12M (Covington) would be obtainable by putting House and fillers in a deal...shouldn't be that far.
     
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    I thought he was restricted. I guess the incentive to make a deal may be there. If they deal him he could help bring back a heck of a return. He's a top 5 reserve imo and can help quite a few teams.
     
  9. Mathloom

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    Trez wasn't a throw in, there was a very specific quote from Morey about how he didn't want to give up Harrell.
     
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  10. Vivi

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    Pretty sure Morey said he hated to move Trez too since it was literally for salary matching, now i don't know what really happened of course, but i can see not many teams being willing to help the Rockets at the time, i guess a rumor about the Rockets taking on little salaries to pull off a big thrade was obviously around...
     
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  11. Vivi

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    He was restricted the summer after we traded him to L.A for Chris and nobody offered him a solid deal, Clippers signed him for a decent 15x3 contract if i remember well, now he's going to be free to sign where he wants and i guess he's going to look to get paid, and maybe get a starting spot (i don't see it though).

    So yeah, if the Clippers know he wants big money they might be looking to trade him, but i guess the problem is, everyone know he's a bench player looking to get paid so, i don't really know who's going to move good assets for him, Clippers might be ok in getting a guy willing to resign for less money like Tristan Thomspon, or a player locked on a longer deal like Dedmon, but that's just my random guess.

    I don't think Trez expiring and Lou could get them back a top tier player, but who knows, teams like Detroit for example, i don't think they would trade Drummond for Trez and Lou (they've looking for a pg for ages), but i wouldn't bet against that either if the Clippers thrown the young players and picks they still have.
     
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    Vivi is accurate. Trez was a salary matching throw in that Morey didn't want to give up. He couldn't find another salary trade to make him able to stay.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    House has been proven replaceable by McLemore
    I like how but since his shoulder and the flu . . .he needs to get his **** together
    I hope he is not traded but he is by far our most tradeable starter

    Rocket River
     
  14. topfive

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    That's 100% due to the Lakers easy schedule so far (and how they've kicked ass at taking advantage of it). There's an insane amount of pressure for the Clips not to STILL be the second best team in town even when they just landed two superstars.
     
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    Don’t know why people are talking about Montrezz being moved. There is absolutely no way he is traded. Clippers would not entertain that idea.
     
  16. Gray_Jay

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    Agreed that House has shot the ball like garbage lately, but could you argue that this is McLemore's absolute peak we're seeing, and that therefore the Rockets might want to sell high on him?

    And now for a ridiculous random trade involving McLemore, from the trade machine: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=u5qygw8 It's similar to trades recently posted here.

    Add draft picks and filler as you like, but the main idea is that teams get what they've been rumored to want. Boston gets Capela, and gets rid of a superfluous PG now that they have Kemba. Houston gets RoCo and and further help for Tucker. They save 1.7 million too. (Still need a tall rim protector at the 5---I don't think Williams is that guy---but see what OKC wants for Noel.) Minnesota gets a great 3 pt shooter and a decent PG, cheaper than Teague. They don't offload Dieng or Wiggins, but I can't see anyone taking on those deals just so they can get Covington.
     
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    Just a random trade....

    Russell Westbrook, PJ Tucker and 1st rounder

    For

    De'Aaron Fox, Ariza and Harrison Barnes.

    Sac can finally make the playoffs

    Rockets dont have to pay Tucker, get younger and get flexibility
     
  18. BaselineFade

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    Random 4 team deal. IF Clint were to get moved how about this 4 team deal?

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=tf5795g

    Westbrook/Rivers
    Harden/Gordon/BMac
    Crowder/House/BMac
    PJ/Bertans
    Holmes/Wagner

    Defense/added mussel at the 3/4
    Lights out shooting at the backup 4/5
    Lob threat at starting 5. If Holmes could bring 75% of Clint brings would anyone do a deal like this? I'm just spit balling. The NBA trade sites are an unhealthy addiction for me.
     
  19. D-rock

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    Rockets are robbed blind IMO. Not only lose key player in Clint but all of his back ups: Tyson, Thabo, Hartenstein

    Tyson will be relied on in playoffs.

    Then Rockets need to pay to retain both PJ and Bertrans in offseason, unlikely with Tilly as owner.

    And Bertrans & Wagner are just versions of Ryno and Hartenstein. As in unplayable in postseason.

    All this for Holmes (lesser Clint) and Jae Crowder (back up to Tucker/House)?

    Even Bertrans is specialist, especially because of lack of defense.

    Would like this trade more if PJ instead of Clint outgoing.
     
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    I cant argue with that. I'm not sure that Tyson, Thabo or Hart will play this year in the playoffs. I think Bertans/Wagner is an upgraded version of Ryno/Hart. Bertans is a sniper, and Wagner may develop in to one, but it would be hard playing them defensively vs the Lakers or Clippers. Crowder may start over House.

    I didn't think it was that bad lol. Oh well, back the drawing board.
     
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