^ Who are All star starters in the Western Conference. Phil has said that he'll end his coaching duty as a Laker. If he wins a tenth one, his diminishing return for the next team would probably double his asking price.
I love this post by nyquil: I fully agree with this post by JV: I kinda agree this this post by Launch Pad: In his first head coaching job, he didn't choose the best player. He lucked into it. It was after Jordan's coattail had been worn out when he decided he wouldn't coach any team unless they had the best player.
I cannot believe that many seemingly smart Rox fans actually think PJ can come in and transform this team into a championship winner. Ring-counting is one of the worst method in judging a coach's worth.
Exactly right. Phil Jackson would REALLY REALLY impress me if he can win a title with the guys we have now.
Smart Rox fans would not bash Phil Jackson unless they hated his guts. (Or maybe just jealous that he won so many rings as a player and as a head coach). If you look at this objectively, Phil Jackson is a better coach than JVG but he also have better players. Jackson is good at getting veteran guys to play hard and win as a team, his X and Os are handled by Text Winter the real master of triangle. Jackson just basically make talents mesh together and he's effective in dealing with people with huge egos, the Jordans, Kobes, Shaqs. I don't think JVG is the same level as Jackson in term of managing people and egos.
I don't think Jackson can instantly transform this team into a championship winner, but he will certaily do better than JVG has done. This is not based on ring-counting, though that's one of the reason. People outside of Bulls & Lakers don't know much about PJ's coaching ability. They believe he is just a good PR guy who is ONLY good at managing egos, but doesn't know much about X's & O's! That's total crap! How many of you really know his playing & coaching background when you started to bad mouth the guy? I doubt many of you do here. The guy was highly regarded as an intellegent player, a coach prospect even during his playing days with the Championship Knicks. He is the only coach in NBA history has won titles in both CBA & NBA, and the reason he was hired by the Bulls was his coaching ability demonstrated in the CBA, not because of his people skill. The Tripple-Post offense was there, as many other systems, when Doug Collins was coaching the Bulls, but he didn't implement it with that team, neither did any other 27 teams. It is because of Jackson's vision & basketball knowledge that the Bulls decided to implement the system, hence the SIX championships within a decade. Like many others, the HOF coach Chuck Daly thought the Tripple-Post offense was the single reason the Bulls was successful, so he started to try it with his Pistons. The results? Nothing! Most of you probably are not aware that the famed Triangle Offense was not intended for guard centered team, namely the Jordan Bulls were not the perfect fit for that system. It took great vision & coaching talent to modify the system to fit the players that Bulls team have. Now the Lakers are using a different version of the same system, but the same results, 3 titles in three years. No system is perfect, it's the coach who uses the right system makes the difference, and Jackson is the best at that. MJ said he would only play for PJ, Shaq said the same thing after under PJ for a year. Can we see anything here? Those guys have huge egos, but are willing to publicly ackownlodge that Jackson was the reason for their success. If that's not a sign of great coach, I don't know what it is.
I see how players like Malone & Stockton or Shaq & Kobe get hated by the fans around the league; because of the way they play. (???) But I don't get how someone like Phil Jackson triggers the same hate response from people. Does he talk that much ****?? I guess when someone accomplishes a lot, one is due for jealousy plenty. It scares me a lot!!!
i don't think we could get him. but geez... how can anyone think he's a bad coach or even overrated? no one LUCKS into 9 rings man.
Why not? We already have 2 allstar starters in westen conference. We are good enough to win some games but we are at best 47 wins. We are supposed to be ready for PJ now.
I'm not a big fan of Jackson, but you have to at least recognize the fact that the Chicago Bulls had the same key players but didn't win their 6 championships until after he arrived. Ditto L.A., the Lakers had the talent but Jackson showed up and all of a sudden, 3 straight titles. I'm not saying he's the greatest coach of all time, but he can't be considered anything less than a very good one.
you're a DDR addict? hopefully you're a girl. i mean i guess there's nothing wrong with addiction to that game because i really liked playing it too. but i guess i'd say if you have the foam pads... just sell those for money, and then get the plastic ones which are cheaper and not as fun to play on. i actually like listening to the music though. "you're my midnight blaze, brighter than the moon and stars..." haha...
Rudy's contract + JVG's contract + P Jackson's contract we have about as much chance of trading spoon for t-mac.
Lakers had a better looking team before PJ arrived. Jones, Van Exel, Elden Campbell as backup, Byron Scott as the veteran influence. I think the Rockets should do the same thing and make some tough cuts without sacrificing the core of Yao and Steve. Cat too if one or the other decides to grow up basketball IQ-wise.
Whether PJ will be a better coach for the Rockets?... I guess we won't find out because there's still the price factor. JVG is more of a basics coach. From everything that I've noticed, JVG is a better coach at teaching a team that needs restructuring. On all of PJ's teams, you seem to have those one or two players where you base everything on, and a bunch of players making the minimum that has some basketball knowledge that they can feed off of their star player(s). Well, except for this year. From everything I've read, PJ, although intelligent, is also known as a dirty player for the Knicks . I've watched enough of his old game clips to determine that he's a milder version of Dennis Rodman.... scrapping for the loose balls (no pun intended) but smarter on his reputation. It's one thing to pursue a coach, it's another thing to just dump one for another. I can assure most people that Detroit didn't handle their coaching options properly. At least I don't think they are right in doing so. We are heading into the situation. We brought in a coach to a 5? year contract and he brought us into the playoffs in his first year. Although slowly, the team is developing a SMALL sense of unity, and you want to kick him out because another coach is available? That's not even mentioning the money you must spend on 3 different coaches. I can gaurantee that PJ does NOT come cheap. Last couple things. PJ's "Triangle Offense" is proposed by his assistant... Tex Winters I believed. Winters implemented it to all the teams that he coached. PJ's coaching is a Psychological effect, as proposed in many books revolving him. He implied a lot of psychological strategies onto his players.... I still can't get over him when he made appointments for Horace Grant/ Quitten/ and Levingston (I believe) to see a psychiatrist because of the way they were playing. I could only imagine Yao trying to understand his psychological statements Either way, just my 2 cents
Nobody is saying that Phil Jackson is a bad coach, except those extreme haters. We say that he is overrated because he is touted as the BEST COACH OF ALL TIME, mostly because of ring-counting. Saying Jackson is the greatest of all time is overrating him. The reason we hate him is a bit different from why we hate players like Malone and Shaq. He is hated because of his smugness, his manipulativeness, his never-give-opponent-any-credit-ness. Yes, there's a kind of jealousy. But it's not simple jealousy. It the kind of jealousy you feel when you see a prick like Donald Trump getting enormously wealthy. It's the same kind of feeling a lot of people have on Mark Cuban.
Yao is overrated. Phil had 9 rings. Yao can't step up in the most important games of the season. Yao is scared of the pressure and of failing.
Jackson is a damn joke with a ring for both thumbs. People like you ignore the fact that both the Lakers and Bulls didn't know how to live up to their potential before Jackson arrived, and both won championships in Jackson's first year. The man is doing something right. Give him his due.
Actually, I am a guy... and I generally play at the arcade. And I'll have the foam pads soon enough... but I got 'em for cheap... Anyway, no more of the DDR stuff... let's stay on topic.
