Zach Lowe: Terrence Jones could be asking for $15M per year

Man, the article is merely suggesting that he might hold out for that amount that based on the 2016 cap bubble, and if he gets a more reliable jumpshot. Whether that's even a realistic number for Jones is debatable.

Jones is an enigma in that he's hard to classify as a true go-to PF. He is a jack of all trades but doesn't seem to excel at any one thing that he can hang his hat on. His skills are great when put on display, but he lacks the drive and desire to be at his best on any given night. Some of this may be due to lingering injury concerns or lack of consistent playing time, but whatever the reason, he's not easy to pin down. So, therefore, I feel it's hard to put an accurate value on a player like him, but my highest value for him is 8-10 mil/yr tops.

Of course, other teams who think they have the right situation for him, will value him higher and he'll probably get paid well above what he's truly worth.

 

Not sure what you mean. Furkan is a fantastic rebounder, good defensive potential, and is developing a jumper. I wouldn't trade DMo for him, but TJ?....

 

Last time Dmo and Jones were both healthy, and one started over the other...well, that was an eternity and one Lawson ago. Hard to use that as any kind of indication of what is to come.

But I agree with you, peak Jones would seem to fit better with the starters than peak Dmo. Yes, Dmo could spot up at the three, but then you're wasting his post game. He's not the lob threat Jones is, and assuming Jones can develop that 3 (he'd be crazy not to work on it all offseason), that's a wash in this comparison between the two. Jones is the better ballhandler and could lead a break, but I doubt you'd ever want him to. Dmo's interior passing is pretty good, but once again Dmo post ups are probably your 3rd option at best on the starting unit.

On the other hand, Dmo showed he could be effective in limited situations playing at center, whereas we have yet to see that from Jones. When Howard goes to the bench, I like the idea of a lineup with 3 point shooting from all 5 positions. It'd be super hard to defend. If we deal Dmo and keep Jones, I'd hate to see us lose that dimension.

I don't know, I go back and forth. I may be talking myself into thinking peak Jones is better than peak Dmo, even though I prefer watching Dmo play because he has all those fun post moves.

 

If ANYONE is willing to give TJ 15M a year - trade him now! Obviously his perceived value is far greater than his actual ability....
A player that would warrant 15M/yr should be worth a decent 1st rd pick - right? Move him NOW!

 

I know it's fashionable to hate on Jones for his abysmal performance in the play-offs but think of all the other times he's been solid. He's not a bad player at all. Not 15M per by a longshot but doesn't deserve all the scorn he's been getting recently. Not even a priority contract to dump. He was coming off a long rest, didn't get a lot of time to acclimate with his new team, still very young and with Smith gone he should be getting his minutes back. Selling low on him would be a terrible mistake.

 

Seriously what are you smoking?

http://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/388w1l/furkan_aldemir_will_he_stay/

Check out what the 76ers fan described your beloved Furkan.

Furkan Aldemir, will he stay?


- no....I've seen him play..he plays hard and contributes for THIS Sixers team...but really, IF he could stay in the league, he's a 10th or 11th man at best.

- Hope not. He has one NBA-level skill in rebounding, and he's elite at it, but we can just keep Thomas Robinson and get the same production and more.

- I don't think so. There just isn't much to be desired outside of his name and the phrases that come along with it ("Furk me sidways," "Furk me up the ass," "Furkan A," "You fist Furkan me?" etc...)

- Even comparing Furkan to TRob is kind of funny. Thomas is 10X the athlete, 10X as strong...there really is nothing that Furkan does better than him.

- I Furkan hope not. TRob is better.

 

I think Mark Cuban and such owners screwed the NBA. Anyhow, they are the one pay the players

 

The overall feeling about TJones would be a LOT different on this board had he been healthy all year. His injuries really messed him up.

I don't think he's worth 15 mil, but with the new cap 10 is certainly not out of the question.

 

Lol 15M? GTFO man

 

Classic.

 

For WHAT?!?

 

For his knee braces, dude. ****'s expensive.

 

why give assets when you can get him for free next summer? Noone thinks that Morey will actually pay both DMO and Jones what they will want since they play the same position. So one of them can be stolen.

And actually if Jones and DMO are healthy next season expect this 15 million amount to go further up.

 

well most teams are going to strike out on the KD sweepstakes to TJ and DMo are gona get paid one way or another!

 

T-Jones for $15m/year?

 

You people have to take into account that these writers consistently UNDERESTIMATE what players get paid. It happened last season and now it starts to happen again. Especially Amin Elhassan and Pelton.

15 million will be the average salary paid for a starter from now on. Especailly for someone so young and with potential to get better as both of them are.
If we can sign/extend one of Jones or DMO for that amount I will take it as a win. But the other one will have to go. I can't see paying both and trading one later.

Next season there will be too many teams having too much money to spend and there is no better players to spend them on than young with potential.

 

Since when did a few comments from fans become the barometer for evaluating talent?

And I don't necessarily think Furkan is a better player than TJones, but he is on a better contract at this point in time. He's an elite rebounder, and that's something we could use on this team.

 

Morey rarely lets assets walk away in free agency with no return so it makes sense to say "we'll trade Jones or DMo before the deadline". BUT - here's my hypothetical:

IF we really are close to title contention and the 1st half of the season confirms it,
IF Harrell and Dekker show that they are NOT ready to play back up mins on a contender
and IF, when Morey shops Jones/Dmo, very few teams are willing to send back help at the 4 (maybe they're offering protected 1sts and Marcus Camby types)

Do you keep them both, knowing you'll probably lose one of them in FA, in order to put the best possible team on the court for the playoffs ?

 

LOL most posters (like the one above) are confusing real value vs market value.

Realistically speaking (ie his real value), Tjones is not worth 15M, he is a solid player but paying him the max is ridiculous he can't carry an offense, he's not an elite rebounder and he's average at best on D.

However in terms of market value Tjones is easily worth 12-15M. This has almost nothing to do with Tjones ability but rather every team will have significant money to burn next year but the pool of available free agents didn't increase. If you don't believe me then look at Parsons, Kanter (lol) and Wes Matthews, these guys are nowhere near star or even superstar status but they got paid like one because Dallas and OKC had money to burn and reasons to sign them (Mavs desperation and trying to convince KD to stay with OKC).

If the money supply increased significantly but the players didn't increase then that means every single FA will get a bigger piece of the pie, and since next year doesn't have an amazing list of FAs this means DMo and TJones will be able to cash in. Unless Morey can somehow convince one or both of them to reasonable contracts ala Brewer/Bev, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rox trade them or let them hit restricted FA to maintain flexibility to sign other FAs (like KD).

 

yup. That's the right question to ask.
I suppose one could be traded for a vet pf too so you can have a balance. That would be the best solution.

For the record 15 mil isn't their max next season. Their max will be 20 million.
There will be 16+ teams that will have that capspace and some teams will have 40 million capspace.
Next years free agency class is horrible so tying your money for 72 hours in a bid for a rfa when you have 40 million to spend is not big deal. That's why it's of the most importance to trade one before the summer.
Maybe we can trade one for Markieff Morris who is tied in a bargain contract and is demanding to be traded.