I agree completely. I was discussing a specific hypothetical trade someone posted. I don’t want to trade any of our core and Lauri is not a good fit for us.
You said you like the trade that sends Jalen and picks for a inferior talent. Lol. Are you having an internal battle of competing narratives or something?
Why do you think so. Explain. One is 22 and another is 27. Up till 22 Lauri was a career 55% ts scorer on lower volume with a career 26% rate on fgs made unassisted and Green up till that same age was a carrer 54% ts scorer on 55% of his fgs made unassisted. So a guard with significantly more difficult scoring profile had the same efficiency as a big with a role player scoring profile and the big had more turnovers than assists. If Jalen Green doesn't have some money set back, it's a near guarantee that he'll be better than Lauri by age 24
Lauri sucked his first several years. His development is basically one of a kind, nobody could have seen it coming. Literally a once in a decade if not once in a lifetime. 27 is not 35, he’s an allstar level player in his absolute prime who fits amazingly well on most teams. Do you think the rockets could get more in a trade for jalen then utah for lauri?
Yes. Sure? It depends on the contact situation. Lauri might not request a max level contract. The decision on which player a franchise would prefer to trade for would revolve on the perceive value vs their contract desires. Lauri will be paid 18 mill next year. Jalen will be demanding more when he's a rfa. He's going to be more expensive so that would be were the hang up or concern is. Lauri will probably not demand a max contract when his contract expires. He will be cheaper. A straight one to one comparison of their talent with none of that other noise, Jalen would have higher value. The fear of having to pay Green the max without having a full season of max worth play is the concern here. He's more talented than Lauri absolutely. The fact that your argument centers around "are you sure anyone else thinks like you" without anything else says a lot about how you form opinions.
I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling at this point. Lauri will 100% get the max and if he gets traded will return at least 3-4 solid assets. What could we get for jalen currently? Maybe one protected pick?
You think he's going to get the max? At his age and his level of production on a tanking team? So we trade for him and now he's one of our two players we max out for the future? So the other is Sengun I guess? So that means no potential max for Amen, Reed etc? Nah. Horrible plan. Your talking point so far is gaslighting. Maybe with your "dude you crazy" narrative actually provide some meat to express how you came to the crazy conclusion. That's what I do when I say someone has a unhinged opinion. I explain why.
We won’t trade for him, he doesn’t fit here at all. He’s an allstar level player who’s 27, there’s no scenario he gets less then the max
Moving Sengun is the only thing that would halfway make sense. I'm certainly not wanting that and I don't think others do either.FWIW, I really believe Adams,if healthy, is going to play a lot of basketball for us...almost starter minutes as he regains his stamina and health. If we are being honest, even with Alpy we are not great at rim protection.
I don't think Lauri to the Rockets happens...in fact, I lean that the Jazz keep him...they need 14+ mil to meet the minimum right now.
I wouldn't hate something like... Rockets in: Lauri Markkanen Rockets out: Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, 2 first round picks. New Rockets Depth w/ Net Ratings (according to basketball reference.com)... FVV(+9)/Reed/Holiday(+1) Amen(+9)/Reed/Cam(-4) Tari(+5)/Jabari(+3)/Cam(-4) Lauri(+8)/Jabari(+3)/Jeff(+2) Sengun(+7)/Adams(+10)/Jock(+12) Net Ratings of duos from last season (according to NBA.com)... Jalen & Dillon: -1.2 (good bye) Amen & Tari: +20.3 (new starters)
This guy gets it. We don’t need all of the core 7 to turn into max paid All Stars. Bari is exactly what a team needs once it has its big 2 or 3. He doesn’t need the ball in his hands and plays switchable elite defense, hits 3s, and rebounds well.
IMO...even that is TOO MUCH...2 first round picks dealbreaker.It will take a Godfather deal to get him from Ainge (translated-you got fleeced).BUT, I like the direction you are going. Jalen & Brooks and filler.
I'm not saying we should trade for him, but why do you think the skills he's shown would not translate to a better team? He largely scores off the ball and finishes plays with his shooting or by driving/cutting into open lanes and using his height to finish. His numbers compare well to #2 options on a number of recent championship teams or teams that made the Finals. (Kyrie Irving, Jamal Murray, Klay Thompson, Khris Middleton, etc.) Again, I think the price would be too high and the Rockets probably shouldn't make the deal unless it's much lower than I'm assuming--we're not really looking for another guy who could be the #2 option, what we really need is to find a true superstar (either internally or via trade). But I do think Lauri is a really good player who could play a key role on a contender.
