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Zach Lowe: Rockets interested in Lauri Markkanen

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Jul 26, 2024.

  1. Tom Bombadillo

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    Throw Amen and Tari in there though…

    I’d pay to see it.
     
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  2. Old School74

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    I am intrigued....
     
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    You mentioned the term “positionless basketball” and said “in a positionless world” Lauri isn’t a guard. Just wanted to comment on this misconception of what that term means.

    That term is a hyperbolic term created by Spoelstra and championed by sports writers.
    Yes the traditional roles have changed and not defined by position necessarily but that’s due to ability of the players on both offense and defense as you already mentioned. Ability is what drives coaches to assign roles to players or let them play to their strengths. We saw Magic, Bird and Pippen do this in the 80s and 90s. This is not new. If u ain’t got the ability u ain’t playing that role. Lauri has little to no playmaking ability.

    Basketball nonetheless is still played with positions clearly defined. A Center is still expected to defend the paint and physically big. A guard is still expected to be able to handle the ball full court and make plays. A PF is still bigger than 3s 2s and 1s helping defend the paint. A 3 is still expected to be able to defend 3s and 2s and rebound. Besides Bron or Barnes aren’t even playing full time pg. If the NBA was position-less as Spoelstra says then he would play Jimmy at point or Bam at the 3 etc but he doesn’t because that’s not what they’ve good at.

    In essence there is no such thing as positionless basketball. And no it’s not a “position-less” world.
     
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  4. Stephen_A

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    They always say dumb shi+ that’s not substantiated by anything but their own assessments and blur the distinction between their own opinions and what was actually told to them by their sources.
     
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    Where did you get “silas didn’t want Sengun to shoot”. I haven’t read that anywhere. Is this a fact or your opinion?
     
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    “Not necessarily”
     
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    Dude the post I responded to specifically mentioned Sengun did not shoot 10 ft plus because Silas “did not want him to.” No mentioning of threes specifically. Silas in this clip was specifically talking about 3s and that they don’t necessarily want him to take that shot since he simply isn’t best at doing that. He specifically talked about playing to the players’ strengths and that Sengun can be used in pick and pop situations.

    Why would you encourage a poor shooter (.297 last season) to shoot? That’s not Sengun’s game. That’s like encouraging Hakeem or Yao to shoot. They weren’t 3 pt shooters and their strengths were low post. Sengun’s strengths are dribble drive from the high post or elbows and low and mid post. That’s his game until he develops a shot.
     
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    I was referring to the video @jordnnnn posted. My bad...For some reason, I remembered that Silas had mentioned shooting overall. Still though, Silas discouraged him to shoot "3s" versus Ime asked him specifically to shoot whenever/wherever he is left alone. And under Ime, Sengun started doing the flamingo. so...
     
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    The big casual personalities like Stephen A do but Zach Lowe's content is kind of more geared to hardcore basketball fans and they're a lot more careful with stupid clickbait stuff. They very clearly say that it's completely speculative and even go as far as to predict that Markennen won't be traded so I don't fault them at all for any of this. It's more of for the people who are reacting and discussing without actually listening to the podcast.
     
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    No they didn’t. All Lowe said was “The Rockets have been mentioned”. By whom? Who mentioned it? What exactly was said by whom? He gives no further details. It’s bullshi+.
     
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    Ah, we have finally come full circle on the Jalen Green experience. :D
     
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    Considering Sengun shoots under .300 and shooting 3s was never part of his game including his days in the Turkish league (0.7 3PA) encouraging a player who isn’t a natural 3 pt shooter is dumb.
     
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    Does it really matter if he shoots .470 for the season when he shoots sub .300 for 55 out of 82 games.

    It's not about shooting some impossible number, it's about being consistently good, not mostly bad with 27 good games to make up the statistical difference.
     
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    Only here does a Markannen speculation thread turn into a Jalen festival. And I guess those guys managed to put Sengün in there as well.

     
  15. Tom Bombadillo

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    You won't get an argument from me. If you can't shoot well, you should not be shooting much.

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    Another unnecessary shot at Green when the topic wasn’t about him. You also ignored the second part about that’s not Sengun’s game to shoot 3s. Another oversimplification. This is getting old.
     
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    I did not ignore the second part, you ignored my reply. Here you go, again: "You won't get an argument from me..."

    This is not a shot at Jalen Green. This is a trade thread with trade discussions centered around Lauri. Jalen Green is on the Houston Rockets, last I looked. Anyone who loves the Rockets wants Jalen Green to succeed here, but so far it has been a rough go of it. I had him over Mobley, and am still holding out hope.

    Do we have to put that at the end of every sentence that criticizes Jalen Green? Good lord... and many of you guys think the Turkish fans are soft...
     
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    You responded to my post which is a response to another user’s post about Sengun. This has nothing to do with Green yet you brought him up for absolutely no reason. Aint nobody talking about Green. What was your intent other than to annoyingly throw another barb at Green? Was it with pure intentions you just wanted to bring my attention to Green’s shooting?

    And yeah you completely missed the second part about shooting 3s being a part of a player’s game. If its a part of your game coaches encourage shooting when open or in certain situations. If its not then they maximize the player where they are best. Sengun doesn’t like to shoot 3s never did. .333 is still better than .297. Look at Luka’s first few years and Booker’s inconsistencies throughout his career. Pat Riley still encouraged Starks (.335) to shoot in that finals with the Rockets. At least you’re consistent with your hate considering you’re one of the most critical voices on this site.
     
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    My intentions were to point out the hypocrisy amidst a variety of JG posts within this thread. Let's keep the same energy with Jalen Green, eh? "3 percentage points more from three and JG is better than Lauri!" - Give me a break.

    Jalen Green is one of the worst shooters in NBA history on bulk attempts, and he leads the Houston Rockets in shots. You continue to imply that bulk threes are a part of JG's game. No, historically inefficient bulk threes are a part of Jalen's game, and we have seen zero improvement in that area.

    Yes, .333 is still better than .297... You got me there, Bruh. My goodness, it's like playing cards with my Sister's kids.
     

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